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| RE: And... | D. N. Vercáriâ | September 14, 2005 - 16:50 | | Üc Tärfâ | September 14, 2005 - 17:33 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | September 14, 2005 - 16:50 |
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Üc Tärfâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > >
> > > Joschka Fischer has sold out every principle he ever had, even if the principles he had in the '70s - Maoism - were pretty screwy.
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> > Whatever you will be able to say about Joschka Fischer, he was opposed to the Maoist
> > KBW; he was instead leaning towards the Spontaneists, the leading post-'68 left-wing faction in (academical and squatter) Frankfurt during the 70s.
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> > Well, Spontaneism was pretty screwy, too, on a variety of levels (I've been here, in Frankfurt, where it happened), but doesn't even remotely compare to the business- or sectarian-like organized Maoism of the KBW (Kommunistischer Bund Westdeutschland = Communist Federation of West Germany).
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> > Beyond this, people can learn by living and change their minds, as did Joschka Fischer. Talking about certain roles in a government and international alliances, for the purity of the thought one possibly has to stay in the corner of opposition for a lifetime. Because of all of the pacts and treaties and whatnot, as a Foreign Minister of a country like Germany you'll have to give in to compromises. Would you prefer to leave this field in the hands of the conservatives, just for being a saint on your own, or would you try to pick up the threads of struggling through all the international difficulties?
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> > Without one of the forerunners of Fischer, Hansdietrich Genscher (FDP), we might possibly still live in a divided Europe. All what lead to the (re)union of Germany has been a series of diplomatic compromises, too... Politically the purity of thought may look refreshing, but in some cases this quest for purity may end up in the lonelyness of mile-high mountains where no-one is living.
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> We had two pure and principled regimes here in Germany, the Nazis for all and the Stalinists in the GDR. Luckily, all governments of the Federal Republic of Germany have been less principled, except in the field of democracy, which embraces learning, making up one's mind, changing one's mind, erring...
I totally agree. Fischer has made an excelent compromise between his ideas and the reality of politic that, i can't stop to say it, it's a compromise. Governing following ideologies doesn't take anywhere.
And the actual CDU/CSU isn't Kohl's one, and i'm frightened for the Europe if Germany will be lead by a "euoropean passive government". Fischer was Europeist. And the actual CDU/CSU doesn't pay so much attention in the Franco-German ties that are very important in Europe... CDU/CSU ot will be another stab to Europe.
Fortunately Italy is going to elect the leftist coalition, that is more europeist (traditionally) leaded by Prodi, former President of the European Commission.
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