D. N. Vercáriâ
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(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | >
> > Whatever you will be able to say about Joschka Fischer, he was opposed to the Maoist
> > KBW; he was instead leaning towards the Spontaneists, the leading post-'68 left-wing faction in (academical and squatter) Frankfurt during the 70s.
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> My apologies, an honest mistake on my part. I was under the impression that many of the founders of die Grünen were ex-Maoists. Still, that, in a way, makes it worse. I'd expect a former worshipper of Chairman Mao to knuckle under to power - not someone who used to understand the value of spontaneous action from below.
Spontaneous action from below led to forming the Green party with other oppositional groups, in the late 70s and early 80s - including remnants of the Maoists, Feminists, others. Ecology may have been the smallest common denominator. ;-)
> By the way, I must say that I don't understand your other post. In what way were the Nazi or Stalinist regimes "pure and principled"? Do you mean they had an ideology? Of course they did, but do you think that the actually-existing BRD doesn't have an ideology? It's just that it's more and more the ideology of neo-liberalism and less the ideology of the "social market".
No, it's not about having an ideology. It's about refusing to accept that there are other, different ideas floating around, some of which may be diametrically different, so all what is left to do to get along with each other is to negotiate, debate, discuss, talk, and whatnot, until there is an compromise that may not be wonderful but would be the only way to get on.
> You (subtly) accuse me of elevating purity of principle above the reality of human life - well, and just what are the Union parties and the "traffic light" parties doing but exactly that, with their worship of the globalised free market? Everyone's got an ideology. Some are more honest than others.
If they won't accept that they'll have to listen to opponents, and if they'll outlaw their opponents, then we'll be in a dead end.
Anyway, I guess we'll have to inspect what the term "ideology" is meant to say... well, later, since over here midnight is urging me to turn off Talossa the computer. ;-)
- D. N. Vercáriâ
¡Pecüliárismeu és escasençâ - MRP!
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