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A big ole Mug of Talossan goodness(#31181), posted by E.S. Börnatfiglheu, [IP Hidden], November 10, 2007 - 01:25. Viewed 326 times.
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Eric Kildow		Well folks, it's getting colder in Talossa (and in parts of the diaspora) and the holiday season is upon us. So I thought I'd post this little gem that got me through many a chilly night spent huddled, Witt-watching.

So, without further ado (whatver "a do" is!)... I present Talossan Cider:

Take about one gallon of unfiltered apple "cider" (a note on cider. Cider is almost without exception a hard drink, but what many Americans know as apple cider is simply unfiltered apple juice) and heat on the stove. Quarter 1-2 tart green apples into the juice, along with 1-2 sliced lemons. Boil until the apples are soft.

Once the mixture is boiling, stir in 2 tablespoons of cinnamon, 1 tablespoon allspice, and 5-10 whole cloves (fresh and whole spices can be used if available). Cover, reduce heat, and simmer for about 20 minutes.

Then, pour into a mug and enjoy. I find it tasty to melt a small pat of butter into the mug before drinking. Not only does this give a delightful, velvety texture... but also adds some salt to the varied bouquet flavour of the cider.

For those who would prefer their drink a touch sweeter, mix in about 1/2 cup of honey while the cider is boiling.

And that, it Talossan cider. I named it as such since it became my drink of choice while Witt-watching before and during my first try at citizenship. The current name does lack a certain... flair, so feel free (particularly you language geeks out there!) to rename it freely.

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Eiric Börnatfiglheu
A big ole Mug of Talossan goodnessE.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 10, 2007 - 01:25
President AnglatzarâNovember 13, 2007 - 07:51
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    		• E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 10, 2007 - 01:25
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    Eric Kildow    		One objection, though.

    All the yummy, lovely ethanol will boil off if the cider is boiled until the apples are soft. Is this really intentional?
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 13, 2007 - 08:55
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    President AnglatzarâNovember 13, 2007 - 07:51
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    Eric Kildow    		> One objection, though.
    >
    > All the yummy, lovely ethanol will boil off if the cider is boiled until the apples are soft. Is this really intentional?

    Those who want to preserve the alcohol don't let the liquid boil. They just heat it up to a temperature that lies a few degrees below the boiling point of ethanol (~ 78 °C).

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    President AnglatzarâNovember 13, 2007 - 10:41
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 13, 2007 - 08:55
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    Eric Kildow    		I'm going to write a book about a future dystopic society where all lovely alcohol in the world is boiled until it all dissipates. I'll call it Fahrenheit 173.
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 13, 2007 - 13:19
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    Eric Kildow    		A cool idea and a hot topic!

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    E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 13, 2007 - 08:49
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    Eric Kildow    		> All the yummy, lovely ethanol will boil off if the cider is boiled until the apples are soft. Is
    > this really intentional?

    Well, part of what I noted is that what many Americans call "Apple Cider" is really only unfiltered apple juice. And the recipe is based on using that.

    If you're using a hard cider, you're just going to have to give it a good, long, slow simmer with the lid on. Though the alcohol will help with the leeching of the apples at any rate.

    Eiric Börnatfiglheu
    President AnglatzarâNovember 10, 2007 - 05:59
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    		• E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 10, 2007 - 01:25
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    Eric Kildow    		> Take about one gallon of unfiltered apple "cider" (a note on cider. Cider is almost without exception a hard drink, but what many Americans know as apple cider is simply unfiltered apple juice)

    So which one is this? Apple juice or cider? Since you put cider within quotes, I'm not sure.

    > Once the mixture is boiling, stir in 2 tablespoons of cinnamon, 1 tablespoon allspice, and 5-10 whole cloves (fresh and whole spices can be used if available).

    If I'm trying this, and I think I will, I'd use whole cinnamon bark and put the spices in a small cloth bag, like a tea bag.

    > Cover, reduce heat, and simmer for about 20 minutes.

    Sounds yummy, like a low-alcohol variant of Scanidnavian mulled wine.
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    E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 11, 2007 - 11:54
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    Eric Kildow    		> > Take about one gallon of unfiltered apple "cider" (a note on cider. Cider is almost without exception a hard drink, but what many Americans know as apple cider is simply unfiltered apple juice)
    >
    > So which one is this? Apple juice or cider? Since you put cider within quotes, I'm not sure.

    You can use either one depending on preference. Some folks here in the US call unfiltered apple juice by the name cider, even though its not hard.
    Eiric Börnatfiglheu
    President AnglatzarâNovember 12, 2007 - 03:22
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    E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 11, 2007 - 11:54
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    Eric Kildow    		> > > Take about one gallon of unfiltered apple "cider" (a note on cider. Cider is almost without exception a hard drink, but what many Americans know as apple cider is simply unfiltered apple juice)
    > >
    > > So which one is this? Apple juice or cider? Since you put cider within quotes, I'm not sure.
    >
    > You can use either one depending on preference. Some folks here in the US call unfiltered apple juice by the name cider, even though its not hard.

    Here, "cider" is one of three things:

    * proper, fermented hard cider
    * fake, filtered sweetened diluted apple juice with added alcohol (the most common type)
    * fake, filtered sweetened diluted apple juice withOUT added alcohol

    Unfiltered apple juice goes by the name apple must (like in wine must).
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 12, 2007 - 03:52
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    Citizen #31:
    Eric Kildow    		> > > > Take about one gallon of unfiltered apple "cider" (a note on cider. Cider is almost without exception a hard drink, but what many Americans know as apple cider is simply unfiltered apple juice)
    > > >
    > > > So which one is this? Apple juice or cider? Since you put cider within quotes, I'm not sure.
    > >
    > > You can use either one depending on preference. Some folks here in the US call unfiltered apple juice by the name cider, even though its not hard.
    >
    > Here, "cider" is one of three things:
    >
    > * proper, fermented hard cider
    > * fake, filtered sweetened diluted apple juice with added alcohol (the most common type)

    Eew!

    > * fake, filtered sweetened diluted apple juice withOUT added alcohol
    >
    > Unfiltered apple juice goes by the name apple must (like in wine must).

    AFAIK, in South Germany and Austria Most (must) is sometimes used for fermented fruit juice, sometimes for unfermented, unfiltered fruit juice (mostly apples or pears).

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    Ián TxaglhNovember 12, 2007 - 08:12
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    Eric Kildow    		> > Here, "cider" is one of three things:
    > >
    > > * proper, fermented hard cider

    ah, this might be "jabèák" aka "jableèné víno" (apple wine). but it has awful taste. who drinks it not being under violent pressure? :)

    > > * fake, filtered sweetened diluted apple juice with added alcohol (the most common type)
    > > * fake, filtered sweetened diluted apple juice withOUT added alcohol
    > >
    > > Unfiltered apple juice goes by the name apple must (like in wine must).
    >
    > AFAIK, in South Germany and Austria Most (must) is sometimes used for fermented fruit juice, sometimes for unfermented, unfiltered fruit juice (mostly apples or pears).

    here, "mošt" is primarily unfermented, unfiltered apple juice, secondarily any unfermented, unfiltered fruit juice. never anything with alcohol. such a thing, fermented, unfiltered fruit juice is called "maè", here on south moravia; literary it is "kvas" (kvasit = to ferment). it is used only to distil a good stuff of it, like slivovice etc. never to drink it :)
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    la garçâ malpadertNovember 12, 2007 - 14:54
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    Ián TxaglhNovember 12, 2007 - 08:12
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    Eric Kildow    		> > > Here, "cider" is one of three things:
    > > >
    > > > * proper, fermented hard cider
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    > ah, this might be "jabèák" aka "jableèné víno" (apple wine).

    In New Zealand, cider always refers to the fermented apple drink which has the alcohol strength of beer. "Apple wine" is something different altogether. And then there's scrumpy, which is somewhere between the two (pretty much fortified cider). I actually prefer good quality brands of cider to beer most of the time. Bad cider, on the other hand, was responsible for much of the pain of my young adulthood - emotional and physical. ;-)

    Now you see, this is the kind of thread which justifies the whole existence of the Talossan Republic. People from all around the world, of wildly different cultures and vocabularies, brought together by a common allegiance to booze our common Berber heritage.



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    E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 13, 2007 - 00:12
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    la garçâ malpadertNovember 12, 2007 - 14:54
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    Eric Kildow    		> Now you see, this is the kind of thread which justifies the whole existence of the Talossan
    > Republic. People from all around the world, of wildly different cultures and vocabularies, brought
    > together by a common allegiance to booze our common Berber heritage.

    Cheers to that, cheers to that. I thought I might toss a little apolitical schtuff out there. I'm swallowing more than enough politics right now with the strikes here in the States. Film writers and theatre stagehands. Broke up a fistfight yesterday in the hall between one of my actors and the fly operator.


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    Ián TxaglhNovember 10, 2007 - 03:45
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    Eric Kildow    		cheers! me will test it, although to catch a real cider in our ends of world is difficult :)
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 10, 2007 - 11:03
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    Eric Kildow    		> cheers! me will test it, although to catch a real cider in our ends of world is difficult :)

    Over here cider is kind of running out of the water taps, as cider is traditionally the most popular alcoholic beverage in south Hesse.

    What Eric is describing is a number of interesting varitations of what is called hot cider (Heißer Äpfelwein) in the pubs in Frankfurt.

    On a side note, recently the EU tried to ban the traditional product name Äpfelwein (apple wine = cider), because it might confuse consumers as wine is supposed to be something made of grapes. You should have heard the uproar of angry Hessians for miles. The EU law proposal was quickly withdrawn.

    Now to the embarrassing confession that I don't drink cider, neither hot nor cold nor watered down with sparkling water, lemonade or coke... which probably shows that I did not grow up in south Hesse.

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    President AnglatzarâNovember 10, 2007 - 16:19
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 10, 2007 - 11:03
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    Eric Kildow    		> > cheers! me will test it, although to catch a real cider in our ends of world is difficult :)
    >
    > Over here cider is kind of running out of the water taps, as cider is traditionally the most popular alcoholic beverage in south Hesse.
    >
    > What Eric is describing is a number of interesting varitations of what is called hot cider (Heißer Äpfelwein) in the pubs in Frankfurt.
    >
    > On a side note, recently the EU tried to ban the traditional product name Äpfelwein (apple wine = cider), because it might confuse consumers as wine is supposed to be something made of grapes. You should have heard the uproar of angry Hessians for miles. The EU law proposal was quickly withdrawn.

    Yes, I read about that when I was in the capital (of Hessen) earlier this week. We do indeed have äppelvin in Sweden, and many more "wines". From Hessen I brough back one bottle of Eiswein, one Spätlese and one Auslese, so there will be some Rheinisch Prädikats-induced sweet happiness here in the presidential family in the future.
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