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| RE: Question: Unicameralism | President Anglatzarâ | January 31, 2005 - 14:40 | | Justice dal Navâ | January 31, 2005 - 14:47 |
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Parent message | | President Anglatzarâ | January 31, 2005 - 14:40 |
| RE: Question: Unicameralism(#1028), posted by Justice dal Navâ, [IP Hidden], January 31, 2005 - 14:47. Viewed 381 times. |
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Justice dal Navâ
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > > Dieter, provinces can be used for many more things than just sending a senator to the Senäts.
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> > Sure, but who represents them in Parlamînt?
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> Who represents the left handed? The teachers? The women? Why do our admittedly rather artificial provinces, of all organisatory groupings, need special representation?
How are the provinces artificial in a way that the whole Republic isn't? Following your logic, we'd have no government at all.
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E isc al Arendra del Bún Úr. Fáden es fóclan gleðen fer brach. El Bún Úr fólat ëtfin cún sino synt prepar. Cún þis paset, þa omin isc fólen. Es lyþ was sár. -- vól Cúliðlaþ
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| | la garçâ malpadert | January 31, 2005 - 15:04 |
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Parent message | | Justice dal Navâ | January 31, 2005 - 14:47 |
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la garçâ malpadert
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ |
> How are the provinces artificial in a way that the whole Republic isn't?
Er, because we don't even know who's in them to start with? People joined the Republic - they didn't join any Province (with the possible exception of our illegal immigrant. :)
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| | Justice dal Navâ | January 31, 2005 - 17:41 |
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Parent message | | la garçâ malpadert | January 31, 2005 - 15:04 |
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Justice dal Navâ
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | >
> > How are the provinces artificial in a way that the whole Republic isn't?
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> Er, because we don't even know who's in them to start with? People joined the Republic - they didn't join any Province (with the possible exception of our illegal immigrant. :)
Not to be an asshole, but that doesn't actually address the artificiality of the provinces. The provinces were conceived of as part of the Republic from the beginning. We had intended to (and did) claim some provinces. So how can one separate the two? If the provinces are "artificial" adn therefore unfit for legislative representation, then wouldn't that apply to the Republic as a whole?
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E isc al Arendra del Bún Úr. Fáden es fóclan gleðen fer brach. El Bún Úr fólat ëtfin cún sino synt prepar. Cún þis paset, þa omin isc fólen. Es lyþ was sár. -- vól Cúliðlaþ
Chirischtôval Curt Cavéir,
Dean of the Republic of Talossa
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| | President Anglatzarâ | February 01, 2005 - 02:44 |
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Parent message | | Justice dal Navâ | January 31, 2005 - 17:41 |
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President Anglatzarâ
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > >
> > > How are the provinces artificial in a way that the whole Republic isn't?
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> > Er, because we don't even know who's in them to start with? People joined the Republic - they didn't join any Province (with the possible exception of our illegal immigrant. :)
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> Not to be an asshole, but that doesn't actually address the artificiality of the provinces. The provinces were conceived of as part of the Republic from the beginning. We had intended to (and did) claim some provinces. So how can one separate the two? If the provinces are "artificial" adn therefore unfit for legislative representation, then wouldn't that apply to the Republic as a whole?
First, I don't mean anything negative by "artificial", just that they don't represent any natural division, but one we have made up entirely because we think it's cool. The Republic is not artificial. The Republic consists of us Talossans, we are a bunch of people who are building a nation, Talossa. We are bound together by common aspirations, a history, and a sense of friendship. The same is not true for the provinces (except the history part, partially). The provinces, on the other hand, can be two or five or ten, we haven't decided how big they should be, who should live in them etc. They are drawing-board constructs.
Surely you see the difference.
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 31, 2005 - 17:47 |
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Parent message | | Justice dal Navâ | January 31, 2005 - 17:41 |
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > >
> > > How are the provinces artificial in a way that the whole Republic isn't?
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> > Er, because we don't even know who's in them to start with? People joined the Republic - they didn't join any Province (with the possible exception of our illegal immigrant. :)
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> Not to be an asshole, but that doesn't actually address the artificiality of the provinces. The provinces were conceived of as part of the Republic from the beginning. We had intended to (and did) claim some provinces. So how can one separate the two? If the provinces are "artificial" adn therefore unfit for legislative representation, then wouldn't that apply to the Republic as a whole?
Yes, I seem to recall that the four stars on our flag aren't meant to be advertisement for Qator Itrins, they are meant to represent four provinces that split from a certain kingdom.
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| | Justice dal Navâ | January 31, 2005 - 19:24 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 31, 2005 - 17:47 |
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Justice dal Navâ
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > >
> > > > How are the provinces artificial in a way that the whole Republic isn't?
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> > > Er, because we don't even know who's in them to start with? People joined the Republic - they didn't join any Province (with the possible exception of our illegal immigrant. :)
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> > Not to be an asshole, but that doesn't actually address the artificiality of the provinces. The provinces were conceived of as part of the Republic from the beginning. We had intended to (and did) claim some provinces. So how can one separate the two? If the provinces are "artificial" adn therefore unfit for legislative representation, then wouldn't that apply to the Republic as a whole?
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> Yes, I seem to recall that the four stars on our flag aren't meant to be advertisement for Qator Itrins, they are meant to represent four provinces that split from a certain kingdom.
Danke schön, sir, for backing me up on this. My point exactly. :-)
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E isc al Arendra del Bún Úr. Fáden es fóclan gleðen fer brach. El Bún Úr fólat ëtfin cún sino synt prepar. Cún þis paset, þa omin isc fólen. Es lyþ was sár. -- vól Cúliðlaþ
Chirischtôval Curt Cavéir,
Dean of the Republic of Talossa
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