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Voting on Amendments to Second Draft Constitution OPENS(#1055), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], February 08, 2005 - 03:00. Viewed 554 times.
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The Amendments are here; the Second Draft Constitution is here.

As foreshadowed, I ABSTAIN on both votes. As before, the vote remains open until seven days from today, or twenty-four hours we reach a quorum of nine more votes. If there is a tie at the end of that time, I will change my own vote to break the tie.

Go to it!


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A slave begins by demanding justice, and ends by wanting to wear a crown.
Voting on Amendments to Second Draft Constitution OPENSla garçâ malpadertFebruary 08, 2005 - 03:00
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    votes(#1064), posted by JKK, [IP Hidden], February 13, 2005 - 14:12. Viewed 440 times.
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    Per on both.

    jkk
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    Gödafrïeu Válcadác’hFebruary 10, 2005 - 15:56

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    Për on both(#1061), posted by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h, [IP Hidden], February 10, 2005 - 15:56. Viewed 411 times.
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    I never thought I would be voting for a unicameral system, but there you go. The deciding factors:

    1. Our small population of active citizens does not warrant an upper legislative house.
    2. The Kingdom functioned perfectly well for nine years without an upper house.

    Let's let the Senäts lie in wait. It may very well be that there may never be a need for it, but let's see what happens with unicameralism in Talossa.
    G. V.
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    Gödafrïeu Válcadác’hFebruary 13, 2005 - 14:29

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    CHANGE OF VOTE *** ATTN Miestra(#1065), posted by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h, [IP Hidden], February 13, 2005 - 14:29. Viewed 395 times.
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    Contra to No. 10
    Për to No. 11

    After looking at M-P's and Miestra's debates as well as checking my gut feelings, the upper house is necessary, even if it means people doubling up, though I hope to avoid that.

    Yes, the Kingdom ran for nine years without a Senate, but we are not the Kingdom.
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    la garçâ malpadertFebruary 13, 2005 - 16:14

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    Gödafrïeu Válcadác’hFebruary 13, 2005 - 14:29
    Read the draft, Göd...(#1067), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], February 13, 2005 - 16:14. Viewed 452 times.
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    "Double-ups", as you call them, are specifically banned. Title Two, Article Two, Section 3 (b).

    If you really think that there might not be enough different active citizens to fill at least 3 Senats places and 5 Deputies places, then I suggest you change your vote back again. :) Cross membership is ridiculous, as the only justification for two houses is to provide checks and balances, which is totally obviated if the same people are in both houses.



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    A slave begins by demanding justice, and ends by wanting to wear a crown.
    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 13, 2005 - 16:48

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    la garçâ malpadertFebruary 13, 2005 - 16:14
    RE: (multiple) hats off - a slighlty unrelated comment.(#1068), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 13, 2005 - 16:48. Viewed 415 times.
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    > "Double-ups", as you call them, are specifically banned. Title Two, Article Two, Section 3 (b).

    It's one of the features of the new Talossa that "multiple hats" are not allowed anymore. As a spectator, I always thought that it has been one of the mayor flaws of the Regipäts that there hasn't been a clear seperation of powers and roles - one could have been king, prime minister and a lot more at the same time.

    - D. N. Vercáriâ
    Gödafrïeu Válcadác’hFebruary 14, 2005 - 16:19

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    RE: (multiple) hats off - a slighlty unrelated comment.(#1069), posted by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h, [IP Hidden], February 14, 2005 - 16:19. Viewed 429 times.
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    > > "Double-ups", as you call them, are specifically banned. Title Two, Article Two, Section 3 (b).
    >
    > It's one of the features of the new Talossa that "multiple hats" are not allowed anymore. As a spectator, I always thought that it has been one of the mayor flaws of the Regipäts that there hasn't been a clear seperation of powers and roles - one could have been king, prime minister and a lot more at the same time.

    Nope. The Organic Law prevented (and still does) the King from being Seneschal, Senator, and/or Uppermost Cort Justice.

    However, what it did allow was the possible scenario of King Ben, PM/Senator Amy, and Senator/Uppermost Cort Justice Harry.

    Not good.

    G. V.
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    > - D. N. Vercáriâ
    Greg T.February 10, 2005 - 14:23

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    per on #10: one-house parliament(#1060), posted by Greg T., [IP Hidden], February 10, 2005 - 14:23. Viewed 481 times.
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    Amendment 10: one-house parliament --- PER!

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    Amendment #10: Contrâ
    Amendment #11: Për

    - D. N. Vercáriâ
    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 08, 2005 - 08:39

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    #10 : Contrâ
    #11 : Për


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    AndyFebruary 08, 2005 - 08:35

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    Unicameralismo: Per
    Quorii established by legislative bodii: Per

    A.
    President AnglatzarâFebruary 08, 2005 - 04:06

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    Anglatzarâ casteth his vote(#1056), posted by President Anglatzarâ, [IP Hidden], February 08, 2005 - 04:06. Viewed 447 times.
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    10. An Amendment to Establish a Unicameral System - Për
    11. An Amendment on Legislative Quorums - Austanéu
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