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| By the way, unrelated, voting procedure stuff | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 16, 2005 - 10:07 | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 16, 2005 - 11:13 |
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Parent message | | By the way, unrelated, voting procedure stuff | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 16, 2005 - 10:07 |
| The latest, and not the first...(#1095), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 16, 2005 - 11:13. Viewed 643 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > A theoretical question:
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> Is it a wanted effect that by saying "the vote remains open until X days from today, or twenty-four hours after we reach a quorum of Y votes" it might happen, that the vote is over within 24 hours, given that the quorum is reached immediately after the vote opens?
We continue until X days have elasped.
We end when BOTH conditions have been met.
So, if we reach Quorum within X days, we end after X days.
If we do not, we continue until 24 hours after the Quorum.
What does an elephant with Diarrhea need ?
Lot's of space...
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 16, 2005 - 16:46 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 16, 2005 - 11:13 |
| RE: The latest, and not the first...(#1098), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 16, 2005 - 16:46. Viewed 759 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > > A theoretical question:
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> > Is it a wanted effect that by saying "the vote remains open until X days from today, or twenty-four hours after we reach a quorum of Y votes" it might happen, that the vote is over within 24 hours, given that the quorum is reached immediately after the vote opens?
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> We continue until X days have elasped.
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> We end when BOTH conditions have been met.
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> So, if we reach Quorum within X days, we end after X days.
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> If we do not, we continue until 24 hours after the Quorum.
I still understand it like
if ((elapsed_days <= X) || ((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed == 0)))
continue_voting ();
else
announce_results();
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 17, 2005 - 09:52 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 16, 2005 - 16:46 |
| RE: The latest, and not the first...(#1106), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 09:52. Viewed 625 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ |
> if ((elapsed_days <= X) || ((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed == 0)))
> continue_voting ();
> else
> announce_results();
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Actually, it would be :
if ((elapsed_days <= X) && (quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))
continue_voting ();
else
announce_results();
You need BOTH the elasped days AND the Quorum.
What does an elephant with Diarrhea need ?
Lot's of space...
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 17, 2005 - 10:29 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 17, 2005 - 09:52 |
| RE: This one might do better(#1107), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 10:29. Viewed 666 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | >
> > if ((elapsed_days <= X) || ((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed == 0)))
> > continue_voting ();
> > else
> > announce_results();
> >
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> Actually, it would be :
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> if ((elapsed_days <= X) && (quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))
> continue_voting ();
> else
> announce_results();
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> You need BOTH the elasped days AND the Quorum.
Yes, but you certainly meant to say:
if ((elapsed_days <= X) && ((quorum_reached == 0)||((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))))
continue_voting ();
else
announce_results();
because in your algorithm quorum_reached == 0 would mean that the result of the whole boolean expression is 0 ("FALSE"), thus announce_results() would have to be performed. ;-)
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 17, 2005 - 10:48 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 17, 2005 - 10:29 |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ |
> if ((elapsed_days <= X) && ((quorum_reached == 0)||((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))))
> continue_voting ();
> else
> announce_results();
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> because in your algorithm quorum_reached == 0 would mean that the result of the whole boolean expression is 0 ("FALSE"), thus announce_results() would have to be performed. ;-)
Actually, this is even better :
if ( elapsed_days <= X || quorum_reached == 0 || 24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0 )
{
continue_voting ();
}
else
{
announce_results();
}
As long as ONE of the 3 conditions is true, we keep voting.
What does an elephant with Diarrhea need ?
Lot's of space...
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| | Justice dal Navâ | February 17, 2005 - 17:58 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 17, 2005 - 10:48 |
| AGGGGGGGGGGGH!(#1110), posted by Justice dal Navâ, [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 17:58. Viewed 723 times. |
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | >
> > if ((elapsed_days <= X) && ((quorum_reached == 0)||((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))))
> > continue_voting ();
> > else
> > announce_results();
> >
> > because in your algorithm quorum_reached == 0 would mean that the result of the whole boolean expression is 0 ("FALSE"), thus announce_results() would have to be performed. ;-)
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> Actually, this is even better :
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> if ( elapsed_days <= X || quorum_reached == 0 || 24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0 )
> {
> continue_voting ();
> }
> else
> {
> announce_results();
> }
NERD OVERLOAD! ARGH!
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Chirischtôval Curt Cavéir,
Dean of the Republic of Talossa
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 18, 2005 - 03:31 |
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Parent message | | Justice dal Navâ | February 17, 2005 - 17:58 |
| RE: Shush!(#1113), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 18, 2005 - 03:31. Viewed 745 times. |
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| | Justice dal Navâ | February 18, 2005 - 07:20 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 18, 2005 - 03:31 |
| RE: Shush!(#1114), posted by Justice dal Navâ, [IP Hidden], February 18, 2005 - 07:20. Viewed 708 times. |
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > :-)
Don't make me get the spray! If I fumigate thsi forum, all the nerds will die.
Wait a sec, that would leave... no-one...
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E isc al Arendra del Bún Úr. Fáden es fóclan gleðen fer brach. El Bún Úr fólat ëtfin cún sino synt prepar. Cún þis paset, þa omin isc fólen. Es lyþ was sár. -- vól Cúliðlaþ
Chirischtôval Curt Cavéir,
Dean of the Republic of Talossa
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 17, 2005 - 12:08 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 17, 2005 - 10:48 |
| RE: Wahwah!(#1109), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 12:08. Viewed 697 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ |
> Actually, this is even better :
>
> if ( elapsed_days <= X || quorum_reached == 0 || 24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0 )
> {
> continue_voting ();
> }
> else
> {
> announce_results();
> }
>
> As long as ONE of the 3 conditions is true, we keep voting.
Wow, that's right. Now I know that Miestrâ's way to express this was correct, and that I was about to read something into her sentence that hasn't been there. Thanks, M.-P. :-)
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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| | Üc Tärfâ | February 16, 2005 - 11:09 |
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Parent message | | By the way, unrelated, voting procedure stuff | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 16, 2005 - 10:07 |
| RE: By the way, unrelated, voting procedure stuff(#1094), posted by Üc Tärfâ, [IP Hidden], February 16, 2005 - 11:09. Viewed 657 times. |
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Üc Tärfâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > A theoretical question:
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> Is it a wanted effect that by saying "the vote remains open until X days from today, or twenty-four hours after we reach a quorum of Y votes" it might happen, that the vote is over within 24 hours, given that the quorum is reached immediately after the vote opens? As long as a quorum Y is smaller than the number of all possibly voters, shouldn't it be guaranteed that the vote will be open for the aforementioned X days, because otherwise groups of 'fast' voters might be allowed to keep 'slow' voters from saying theirs?
could be... but it doesn't affect the result of the votation anyway... usually in politic is the minority who want the process slower...
I think the most equal process in this partocular case is:
"the vote remains open until X days from today, or after Z days if we reach a quorum of Y votes before the Z days, if we reach it after the Z days, the votation end after the X days"
I mean:
X days--> 15
Z days--> 10
start 1--2--3--4--5--6--7--8--9--10 -- 11--12--13--14--15 end
we reach the quorum between the 2nd or the 9th day --> the end oof the votation is the 10th day
we reach the quorum the 10th or after the 10th --> the end of the votation is the 15th day
Sweet seduction in a magazine,
endless pleasure in a limousine,
in the back shakes a tambourine,
Nicotine from a silver screen
In the music,
say the word,
see the light,
join the herd,
Levit comes,
Levit goes,
diamond memories,
go with the flow |
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