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  • D. N. VercáriâFebruary 16, 2005 - 10:07
    The latest, and not the first...(#1095), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 16, 2005 - 11:13. Viewed 671 times.
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    Citizen #20:
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    > A theoretical question:
    >
    > Is it a wanted effect that by saying "the vote remains open until X days from today, or twenty-four hours after we reach a quorum of Y votes" it might happen, that the vote is over within 24 hours, given that the quorum is reached immediately after the vote opens?


    We continue until X days have elasped.

    We end when BOTH conditions have been met.


    So, if we reach Quorum within X days, we end after X days.

    If we do not, we continue until 24 hours after the Quorum.



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    The latest, and not the first...Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 16, 2005 - 11:13
    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 16, 2005 - 16:46

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    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 16, 2005 - 11:13
    RE: The latest, and not the first...(#1098), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 16, 2005 - 16:46. Viewed 789 times.
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    Citizen #20:
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    > > A theoretical question:
    > >
    > > Is it a wanted effect that by saying "the vote remains open until X days from today, or twenty-four hours after we reach a quorum of Y votes" it might happen, that the vote is over within 24 hours, given that the quorum is reached immediately after the vote opens?
    >
    >
    > We continue until X days have elasped.
    >
    > We end when BOTH conditions have been met.
    >
    >
    > So, if we reach Quorum within X days, we end after X days.
    >
    > If we do not, we continue until 24 hours after the Quorum.

    I still understand it like

    if ((elapsed_days <= X) || ((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed == 0)))
    continue_voting ();
    else
    announce_results();


    - D. N. Vercáriâ
    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 17, 2005 - 09:52

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    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 16, 2005 - 16:46
    RE: The latest, and not the first...(#1106), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 09:52. Viewed 657 times.
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    > if ((elapsed_days <= X) || ((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed == 0)))
    > continue_voting ();
    > else
    > announce_results();

    >


    Actually, it would be :

    if ((elapsed_days <= X) && (quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))
    continue_voting ();
    else
    announce_results();



    You need BOTH the elasped days AND the Quorum.




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    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 17, 2005 - 10:29

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    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 17, 2005 - 09:52
    RE: This one might do better(#1107), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 10:29. Viewed 695 times.
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    Citizen #20:
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    >
    > > if ((elapsed_days <= X) || ((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed == 0)))
    > > continue_voting ();
    > > else
    > > announce_results();

    > >
    >
    >
    > Actually, it would be :
    >
    > if ((elapsed_days <= X) && (quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))
    > continue_voting ();
    > else
    > announce_results();

    >
    >
    > You need BOTH the elasped days AND the Quorum.

    Yes, but you certainly meant to say:

    if ((elapsed_days <= X) && ((quorum_reached == 0)||((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))))
    continue_voting ();
    else
    announce_results();


    because in your algorithm quorum_reached == 0 would mean that the result of the whole boolean expression is 0 ("FALSE"), thus announce_results() would have to be performed. ;-)

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    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 17, 2005 - 10:48

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    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 17, 2005 - 10:29
    Actually...(#1108), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 10:48. Viewed 719 times.
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    Citizen #20:
    Martí- Paìr Furxhéir

    > if ((elapsed_days <= X) && ((quorum_reached == 0)||((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))))
    > continue_voting ();
    > else
    > announce_results();

    >
    > because in your algorithm quorum_reached == 0 would mean that the result of the whole boolean expression is 0 ("FALSE"), thus announce_results() would have to be performed. ;-)


    Actually, this is even better :

    if ( elapsed_days <= X || quorum_reached == 0 || 24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0 )
    {
    continue_voting ();
    }
    else
    {
    announce_results();
    }

    As long as ONE of the 3 conditions is true, we keep voting.


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    Lot's of space...
    Justice dal NavâFebruary 17, 2005 - 17:58

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    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 17, 2005 - 10:48
    AGGGGGGGGGGGH!(#1110), posted by Justice dal Navâ, [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 17:58. Viewed 756 times.
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    Citizen #20:
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    >
    > > if ((elapsed_days <= X) && ((quorum_reached == 0)||((quorum_reached == 1) && (24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0))))
    > > continue_voting ();
    > > else
    > > announce_results();

    > >
    > > because in your algorithm quorum_reached == 0 would mean that the result of the whole boolean expression is 0 ("FALSE"), thus announce_results() would have to be performed. ;-)
    >
    >
    > Actually, this is even better :
    >
    > if ( elapsed_days <= X || quorum_reached == 0 || 24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0 )
    > {
    > continue_voting ();
    > }
    > else
    > {
    > announce_results();
    > }

    NERD OVERLOAD! ARGH!


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    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 18, 2005 - 03:31

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    Justice dal NavâFebruary 17, 2005 - 17:58
    RE: Shush!(#1113), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 18, 2005 - 03:31. Viewed 779 times.
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    :-)

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    Justice dal NavâFebruary 18, 2005 - 07:20

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    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 18, 2005 - 03:31
    RE: Shush!(#1114), posted by Justice dal Navâ, [IP Hidden], February 18, 2005 - 07:20. Viewed 740 times.
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    Citizen #20:
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    > :-)

    Don't make me get the spray! If I fumigate thsi forum, all the nerds will die.

    Wait a sec, that would leave... no-one...


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    D. N. VercáriâFebruary 17, 2005 - 12:08

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    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.February 17, 2005 - 10:48
    RE: Wahwah!(#1109), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 17, 2005 - 12:08. Viewed 729 times.
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    Citizen #20:
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    > Actually, this is even better :
    >
    > if ( elapsed_days <= X || quorum_reached == 0 || 24_hours_passed_since_quorum == 0 )
    > {
    > continue_voting ();
    > }
    > else
    > {
    > announce_results();
    > }
    >
    > As long as ONE of the 3 conditions is true, we keep voting.

    Wow, that's right. Now I know that Miestrâ's way to express this was correct, and that I was about to read something into her sentence that hasn't been there. Thanks, M.-P. :-)



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