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  • TOPIC TEN, second round: Rights and Freedoms
  • la garçâ malpadertNovember 21, 2004 - 03:04
    regarding the bills of Attainder(#857), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], November 25, 2004 - 10:44. Viewed 296 times.
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    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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    Martí- Paìr Furxhéir

    > 29. An act can be punished only if it was a punishable offense by law prior to the act. No one may be punished for the same act more than once in pursuance of general penal legislation. Bills of attainder are illegal.


    This should be split in 3 parts, with the Double Jeopardy and Bills of Attainder having their own section.

    Furthermore, what a Bill of attainder is should be define IN THE CONSTITUTION.


    Please all, read this : http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/billattain.shtml

    "There is no complete applicable definition of bill of attainder in the [US constitution] law. Americans deserve to have "Bill Of Attainder" defined into the law, in a way that actually protects their rights, and will not let the legal community and the legislature use the law to plunder"

    He also says :

    "The only statement in the U.S.C. that reflects most of the original intention of the mandates is from Cummings v. Missouri (1867). It states, "A bill of attainder, is a legislative act which inflicts punishment without judicial trial and includes any legislative act which takes away the life, liberty or property of a particular named or easily ascertainable person or group of persons because the legislature thinks them guilty of conduct which deserves punishment.""

    I would add : "life, liberty, property or rights"

    So, I would say :



    29. An act can be punished only if it was a punishable offense by law prior to the act.

    30 . No one may be punished for the same act more than once in pursuance of general penal legislation.

    31. Bills of attainder are illegal. A bill of attainder, is a legislative act which inflicts punishment without judicial trial and includes any legislative act which takes away the life, liberty, property or rights of a particular named or easily ascertainable person or group of persons



    As for 30, is this against Double Jeopardy ?

    It should be more like in Canada, than in the US.

    In the US, if someone corrupts a Jury for a murder Trial, and get found non-guilty, they can only be tried on the jury corruption, not on the murder, right ?

    In Canada, the trial CAN ( with a lot of trouble ) be declared a mis-trial and occur again.

    In the US, if a Jury cannot reach a verdict, the person walks, no ?

    In Canada, there is a second Trial with a new Jury.





    And now, a few opening lyrics song by the female lead of the group E-Rotic :
  • "Fred come to bed, cause my Max had sex with his sexy ex last night. Oooh Fred come to bed, baby I will let your dreams get wet"
  • "Hey hey hey Fritz Your key fits nicely My body opens to your touch So ring my bell and just entice me I need your lovin' oh so much"
  • "Oh Nick please not so quick, You know I want it big I wanna feel like in heaven, Just like in heaven"
  • "Oh, Willy, use a Billy, Don't be silly,Oh, baby, sex is joy, but use a Billy boy"
    That's 5 guys ( including Max ). Do you think she a little nyphomaniac,especially considering we can hear her orgasming in every one of her songs ?
  • regarding the bills of AttainderMr. Furxheir, R.M.W.November 25, 2004 - 10:44
    Justice dal NavâNovember 30, 2004 - 08:03
    Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.November 30, 2004 - 08:17
    Justice dal NavâNovember 30, 2004 - 16:51
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