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Citizen #2:
Chris Gruber | > Furthermore, what a Bill of attainder is should be define IN THE CONSTITUTION.
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> Please all, read this : http://land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/billattain.shtml
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> "There is no complete applicable definition of bill of attainder in the [US constitution] law. Americans deserve to have "Bill Of Attainder" defined into the law, in a way that actually protects their rights, and will not let the legal community and the legislature use the law to plunder"
Just because the definition is not in the Constitution doesn't mean there isn't an accepted legal definition. Do we need to define every term?
> I would add : "life, liberty, property or rights"
Why? The whole point of "life liberty and property" is rights. Those rights to what? Life, liberty, and property.
Pay attention.
> So, I would say :
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> 29. An act can be punished only if it was a punishable offense by law prior to the act.
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> 30 . No one may be punished for the same act more than once in pursuance of general penal legislation.
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> 31. Bills of attainder are illegal. A bill of attainder, is a legislative act which inflicts punishment without judicial trial and includes any legislative act which takes away the life, liberty, property or rights of a particular named or easily ascertainable person or group of persons
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> As for 30, is this against Double Jeopardy ?
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> It should be more like in Canada, than in the US.
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> In the US, if someone corrupts a Jury for a murder Trial, and get found non-guilty, they can only be tried on the jury corruption, not on the murder, right ?
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> In Canada, the trial CAN ( with a lot of trouble ) be declared a mis-trial and occur again.
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> In the US, if a Jury cannot reach a verdict, the person walks, no ?
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> In Canada, there is a second Trial with a new Jury.
You seem to have a basic misunderstanding of US trial law. YOu need to read more about before condemning the way we do things here.
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