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| My votes | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 10, 2005 - 15:10 | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 11, 2005 - 16:23 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 10, 2005 - 15:10 |
| I'd now like to amend my votes(#984), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], January 11, 2005 - 16:23. Viewed 405 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
(4498 posts total)
(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | Ignore this if it's impossible to modify my vote:
> 1) Austanéu
> If amendment 6 fails to sail through, amendment 1 might mean that we'll really run short of possible candidates for the Presidency.
Për, instead. There's been something that I misunderstood.
> 5) Austanéu
> I don't see the importance of the additional section 3 b of this amendment, but there you go, fellow citizens - if you think we need it, then it's okay.
Contrâ, instead. Unless someone quickly explains to me how we can elect a President in a constitutional way during the refendum on the Constition, as proposed in section 2.
> 9) Austanéu
> Also not necessary IMHO, but nothing that I've strong feelings about.
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> All other amendments: Për.
> Annotation: I hope that further amendments of proposed and possibly rejected amendments will be allowed after this round of voting.
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> - D. N. Vercáriâ
If it has been possible to modify my vote, sorry for the inconvenience that has been caused by my now altered premature vote. :-/
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 13, 2005 - 06:58 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 11, 2005 - 16:23 |
| how we can elect a President in a constitutional(#986), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], January 13, 2005 - 06:58. Viewed 388 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
Group: admins
(1791 posts total)
(last post: November 24, 2007 - 15:07)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ |
> Contrâ, instead. Unless someone quickly explains to me how we can elect a President in a constitutional way during the refendum on the Constition, as proposed in section 2.
A consitution defines what is constitutional or not.
If a LAW said that we can elect the president during the referendum, I am not sure it would be constitutional.
But since the constitution specifies it, it is by definition, constitutional.
And now, a few opening lyrics song by the female lead of the group E-Rotic :
"Fred come to bed, cause my Max had sex with his sexy ex last night. Oooh Fred come to bed, baby I will let your dreams get wet"
"Hey hey hey Fritz Your key fits nicely My body opens to your touch So ring my bell and just entice me I need your lovin' oh so much"
"Oh Nick please not so quick, You know I want it big I wanna feel like in heaven, Just like in heaven"
"Oh, Willy, use a Billy, Don't be silly,Oh, baby, sex is joy, but use a Billy boy"
That's 5 guys ( including Max ). Do you think she a little nyphomaniac,especially considering we can hear her orgasming in every one of her songs ? |
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 13, 2005 - 12:25 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 13, 2005 - 06:58 |
| RE: how we can elect a President in a constitutional(#987), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], January 13, 2005 - 12:25. Viewed 374 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
(4498 posts total)
(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | >
> > Contrâ, instead. Unless someone quickly explains to me how we can elect a President in a constitutional way during the refendum on the Constition, as proposed in section 2.
>
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> A consitution defines what is constitutional or not.
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> If a LAW said that we can elect the president during the referendum, I am not sure it would be constitutional.
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> But since the constitution specifies it, it is by definition, constitutional.
Before the end of the referendum the constitution is possibly only a proposed constitution.
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 13, 2005 - 13:12 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 13, 2005 - 12:25 |
| RE: how we can elect a President in a constitutional(#988), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], January 13, 2005 - 13:12. Viewed 412 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
Group: admins
(1791 posts total)
(last post: November 24, 2007 - 15:07)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > >
> > > Contrâ, instead. Unless someone quickly explains to me how we can elect a President in a constitutional way during the refendum on the Constition, as proposed in section 2.
> >
> >
> > A consitution defines what is constitutional or not.
> >
> > If a LAW said that we can elect the president during the referendum, I am not sure it would be constitutional.
> >
> > But since the constitution specifies it, it is by definition, constitutional.
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> Before the end of the referendum the constitution is possibly only a proposed constitution.
>
Yes, but the rules of the election are not even defined by the constitution ! The only thing the constitution specify is that an election is needed.
Not the method it is conducted...
France singing review, according to RBO ( listen to it here):
j'ai p't-être pas inventé, le bouton à quatre trou,
mais quand il est tombé, c'est moi qui le recoud.
Oh hé, (oh hé ) j'suis comme le camembert
Hé Oh, ( hé od ) j'm'étend moi bien qu'j'en ai l'air |
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 13, 2005 - 13:45 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 13, 2005 - 13:12 |
| RE: I don't know...(#989), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], January 13, 2005 - 13:45. Viewed 370 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
(4498 posts total)
(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > > >
> > > > Contrâ, instead. Unless someone quickly explains to me how we can elect a President in a constitutional way during the refendum on the Constition, as proposed in section 2.
> > >
> > >
> > > A consitution defines what is constitutional or not.
> > >
> > > If a LAW said that we can elect the president during the referendum, I am not sure it would be constitutional.
> > >
> > > But since the constitution specifies it, it is by definition, constitutional.
> >
> > Before the end of the referendum the constitution is possibly only a proposed constitution.
> >
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> Yes, but the rules of the election are not even defined by the constitution ! The only thing the constitution specify is that an election is needed.
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> Not the method it is conducted...
I don't know if it helps to look at Art. VIII, Sec. 5 of the Provisional Constitution which states that the Prov. Constitution is abolished upon the ratification of the new constitution. So all procedures before the ratification should follow the provisions of the Provisional Constitution (that is, including procedures of the referendum).
IMHO, the Appendix of the new constitution regarding the procedure of adopting the new constitution can only fill "constitutional gaps" that open in the very moment when the Provisional Constitution becomes history (and thus all provisional bodies of the Republic cease to exist).
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 13, 2005 - 14:32 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 13, 2005 - 13:45 |
| RE: I don't know...(#990), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], January 13, 2005 - 14:32. Viewed 396 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
Group: admins
(1791 posts total)
(last post: November 24, 2007 - 15:07)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ |
> I don't know if it helps to look at Art. VIII, Sec. 5 of the Provisional Constitution which states that the Prov. Constitution is abolished upon the ratification of the new constitution. So all procedures before the ratification should follow the provisions of the Provisional Constitution (that is, including procedures of the referendum).
No it doesn't because the rules regarding the elections are not in the provinsional constitution, but are rather a simple law ( it isn't even a law yet, it is a rule, but that isn't the point ).
And, the constitution stipulates :
"Until they are overriden, repealed, or found to violate the new constitution, all laws passed by the Provisional Governing Council shall remain in place."
As such, the ONLY thing repealed by Art. VIII, Sec. 5, is the actual provisional constitution, NOT the laws passed under it.
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> IMHO, the Appendix of the new constitution regarding the procedure of adopting the new constitution can only fill "constitutional gaps" that open in the very moment when the Provisional Constitution becomes history (and thus all provisional bodies of the Republic cease to exist).
Yes, provisional bodies cease to exist, but not the laws of the PGC...
Only the bodies that pass them.
France singing review, according to RBO ( listen to it here):
j'ai p't-être pas inventé, le bouton à quatre trou,
mais quand il est tombé, c'est moi qui le recoud.
Oh hé, (oh hé ) j'suis comme le camembert
Hé Oh, ( hé od ) j'm'étend moi bien qu'j'en ai l'air |
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| | la garçâ malpadert | January 11, 2005 - 20:06 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 11, 2005 - 16:23 |
| Your votes are amended. (n/t)(#985), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], January 11, 2005 - 20:06. Viewed 457 times. |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 10, 2005 - 15:26 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 10, 2005 - 15:10 |
| RE: My votes(#982), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], January 10, 2005 - 15:26. Viewed 369 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
Group: admins
(1791 posts total)
(last post: November 24, 2007 - 15:07)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ |
> 5) Austanéu
> I don't see the importance of the additional section 3 b of this amendment, but there you go, fellow citizens - if you think we need it, then it's okay.
Actually, section 3B was already in the constitution, so it is not a new section. The others around it are however ;-)
And now, a few opening lyrics song by the female lead of the group E-Rotic :
"Fred come to bed, cause my Max had sex with his sexy ex last night. Oooh Fred come to bed, baby I will let your dreams get wet"
"Hey hey hey Fritz Your key fits nicely My body opens to your touch So ring my bell and just entice me I need your lovin' oh so much"
"Oh Nick please not so quick, You know I want it big I wanna feel like in heaven, Just like in heaven"
"Oh, Willy, use a Billy, Don't be silly,Oh, baby, sex is joy, but use a Billy boy"
That's 5 guys ( including Max ). Do you think she a little nyphomaniac,especially considering we can hear her orgasming in every one of her songs ? |
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | January 10, 2005 - 15:58 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | January 10, 2005 - 15:26 |
| RE: My votes(#983), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], January 10, 2005 - 15:58. Viewed 401 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
(4498 posts total)
(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | *blush* Yes, I see it now. Anyway I'm still undecided in this, thus I abstain.
- D. N. Vercáriâ |
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