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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.March 16, 2005 - 11:43
RE: I'll have a lot of suggestions...(#21), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], March 16, 2005 - 14:16. Viewed 967 times.
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> Many of these suggestions are related to more easily automate the system.

Right. If you approve of the principles of the legislation then that's all good. I look forward to hearing your suggestions to make it more easily automated - please post them here as and when you think of it.

> Finally, I would require specifically ALL ranks to be filled for the ballot to be valid. Otherwise, the vote might be lost !

I would oppose that. That's the system they have in Australia and I think it's too draconian - I prefer the Irish "optional preference" system. If people *want* their votes to be lost - if they *want* to put in a [1] preference and not anyone elses - then that should be up to then. I don't want anyone's votes invalidated on a technicality.


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RE: I'll have a lot of suggestions...la garçâ malpadertMarch 16, 2005 - 14:16
Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.March 16, 2005 - 15:40
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la garçâ malpadertMarch 16, 2005 - 14:16
RE: I'll have a lot of suggestions...(#22), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], March 16, 2005 - 15:40. Viewed 934 times.
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Citizen #22:
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> > Finally, I would require specifically ALL ranks to be filled for the ballot to be valid. Otherwise, the vote might be lost !
>
> I would oppose that. That's the system they have in Australia and I think it's too draconian - I prefer the Irish "optional preference" system. If people *want* their votes to be lost - if they *want* to put in a [1] preference and not anyone elses - then that should be up to then. I don't want anyone's votes invalidated on a technicality.


Well, right now, you cannot submit the form if you haven't filled all of the positions. The reason is to prevent someone from voting by mistake without having filled all their votes.

I can of course change the behaviour, but I thought it was nice.

The other reason is simple : we need to enumerate all of the ballots for there be some accountability.

If we allow people to fill "partial" ballots is makes it even easier to identify who voted for what "You can confirm My vote, I will vote for you in first, Grubi in second and stop there"

But the biggest argument I think is unpredicability : If you decide : "Hey, I am sure Grubi will be in the top 2, so I don't need to pick a second choice", well, what if Grubi IS eliminated ? You will have lost your vote and we won't be garanteed a majority.

In fact, if EVERYONE only picked 1st rank, then we might end up with a candidate with only 30% of the vote, but everyone else is eliminated.



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