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| A complete DRAFT ELECTORAL ACT | la garēā malpadert | February 26, 2005 - 00:30 | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 12:13 |
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Parent message | | A complete DRAFT ELECTORAL ACT | la garçâ malpadert | February 26, 2005 - 00:30 |
| One major change and a minor one(#13), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 28, 2005 - 12:13. Viewed 964 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | "b) If a party is entitled to more seats than it has nominated candidates for, then those extra seats shall stand vacant until the next general election or by-election."
No, if a party has 3 candidates, only the first 3 quotients are calculated. We do not calculate the fourth one. Take a look at : http://www.talossa.net/database/electionresult.php?ElectionNumber=4, and you'll see what I mean.
6.. The Secretary of State shall then proceed to ascertain from a comparison of all the figures in the table as above, the highest seven quotients, or such other number as may be decided by Parlamīnt as the size of the Chamber. These quotients shall be circled on the table.
7. In any case where the lowest of the numbers required to be ascertained under s.6 constitutes two or more numbers in different columns which are of exactly the same value, the Secretary of State shall circle all of these numbers.
8. The Secretary of State shall then proceed to ascertain the number of seats in the Chamber to which each party is entitled by adding the number of circles in the column of numbers under the name of that party.
Replace circle by Marked. In the Database, they will be marked in Red, with ties for last place in yellow.
What does an elephant with Diarrhea need ?
Lot's of space...
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| | la garçâ malpadert | February 28, 2005 - 13:57 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 12:13 |
| RE: One major change and a minor one(#14), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], February 28, 2005 - 13:57. Viewed 1020 times. |
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la garēā malpadert
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | Fair enough. If I make these changes, will you vote for the bill?
Miestrā Schivā
"The Republic's Most Articulate Spokeswhatever" - R. B. Madison
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 14:13 |
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Parent message | | la garçâ malpadert | February 28, 2005 - 13:57 |
| I'll have to review it further....(#15), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 28, 2005 - 14:13. Viewed 1003 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | > Fair enough. If I make these changes, will you vote for the bill?
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I'll have to read it into more details, and run a few simulations. When it comes to electoral law, I try to make worst case scenarios, and try to find a way to conterract them.
Without Ben in the picture, I no longer have to account for as much malice as in the past, but I still need to take errors and omissions.
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Lot's of space...
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| | Art Verbotten | March 03, 2005 - 22:51 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 14:13 |
| RE: I'll have to review it further....(#16), posted by Art Verbotten, [IP Hidden], March 03, 2005 - 22:51. Viewed 1112 times. |
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Art Verbotten
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | If you'd like, I could provide some hardcore malicious pressure on you while you are running your simulations,..... you know, ....... just to give it that "real Talossan election" feel. :-)
Eif
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I call it my "reality exit strategy."--NS |
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 12:00 |
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Parent message | | A complete DRAFT ELECTORAL ACT | la garçâ malpadert | February 26, 2005 - 00:30 |
| Part of the stuff covered was posted by me(#11), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 28, 2005 - 12:00. Viewed 988 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | I had posted several articles in great details on Witt in the past few months, let me find them. I had sat down and worked several hours on making the mechanics work.
I think I had posted links on Talossa Weekly, so it shouldn't be too hard for me to find.
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| | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 12:02 |
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Parent message | | Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W. | February 28, 2005 - 12:00 |
| Here it is(#12), posted by Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W., [IP Hidden], February 28, 2005 - 12:02. Viewed 818 times. |
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Mr. Furxheir, R.M.W.
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | http://www.talossaonline.com/1.15971.1.html
Now, let me make this clear. THIS IS NOT A BILL TO BE VOTED ON.
This is just a BRAIN-STORMING of the ideas on how to run a preferential ballot election.
I do not want people to announce they are contra or pėr this, I want comments
on how to make it better.
We are currently having a preferential ballot election, but we don't have a law.
This is our second election ( the Convention vote was the first one ) and we have
gathered a lot of ideas.
I think it is time to TRY to write them down, for later review by a mixed electoral commission
( mixed meaning Senate and Deputies ) on writing the final electoral law.
This would be a POSSIBLE article on Preferential Ballot Election.
So I am looking for comments on how to make this clearer, how to improve the law, etc...
ARTICLE N : Preferential Ballot Election
1. Preferential ballot elections are the method used to elect a single candidate by majority to an office in the Republic of Talossa.
2. A preferential ballot is a ballot in which the voters need to rank each candidate in order of preference, with their preferred candidate in first rank, followed by their second preferred candidate in second rank and so on. A ballot is only valid if all the candidates have been ranked.
3. Once the election is closed, the conductor of the election shall publish all the ballots, ensuring that there is no way to retrace which voter has cast which ballot.
4. If a single candidate receives a majority of the first rank of ballots, that candidate is declared winner of the election.
5. If no candidate receives a majority, a series of rounds of elimination shall be conducted, with each rounds consisting of three phases:
A ) Determining the candidate with the lowest current vote total
B ) Redistributing the votes for the candidate selected in phase A
C ) Determining the new current vote totals for every candidate, declaring a winner if one now has a majority
6. The Current Vote Total is the total number of votes currently assigned to a candidate, and includes all of his first rank votes, as well as any ballots redistributed to him by the elimination of other candidates.
7. When determining the candidate with the lowest current vote total, the tie breaking procedure must be used to select only one candidate per round, with the candidate with the LOWEST tie breaking result selected for elimination.
8. When redistributing the votes of an eliminated candidate, the name of the candidate is simply striked from every ballot in the election, however, none of the other candidates change rank as a result. The candidate in the highest non-striked rank simply receives the ballot. As such, if the first rank of a ballot is striked, it's second rank is used to assign the vote, and so on.
9. If at any rounds of the procedure, several candidates are tied for elimination, even if they are only 2 remaining candidates each tied with 50% of the vote, the following steps must be used to determine who is eliminated. If at any of the steps, one of the tied candidates has a lower total, he is selected for elimination.
A ) The number of first rank ballot cast for each candidate is calculated.
B ) The number of second rank ballot assigned to each candidate is calculated.
C ) One by one, the rank of each ballot assigned to each candidate is calculated, going down until there are no ranks.
D ) If there is still a tie, the next non-striked rank of every ballot is used to determine the loser of the tie, as if all the tied candidate had been elimininated and redistributed.
E ) If the above procedure is unable to determine a single loser in a tie between 3 candidates or more, the procedure is repeated between only the candidates that were still tied, going further down the ranks for their ballots.
F ) If there is a still tie for elimination, but that not all candidates are tied, all the tied candidates are eliminated.
G ) If there is still a tie between all the remaining candidates, the external method defined in the type of election shall be used. [For example, a vote by the Deputies, the flip of a coin, etc..]
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Lot's of space...
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| | President Anglatzarâ | February 26, 2005 - 06:56 |
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Parent message | | A complete DRAFT ELECTORAL ACT | la garçâ malpadert | February 26, 2005 - 00:30 |
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President Anglatzarā
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā | OK, I have to be off soon, but a first question. I'm a little confuse by the apparent conflict of these:
s. 3. A) Subject to the provisions of this Act, the Secretary of State shall establish a system of anonymous voting, whereby each voter's identity is recorded as having voted, but it is not possible to connect any voter with any particular vote.
s. 6 All details of votes and counts shall be published by the Secretary of State after the election is completed, to ensure the transparency of the system.
I assume the vote will be completely anonymous, but in that case s. 6 should be clarified so that it is mentioned that connecting the voter with the vote is not included in "All details of votes and counts".
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| | la garçâ malpadert | February 26, 2005 - 15:48 |
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Parent message | | President Anglatzarâ | February 26, 2005 - 06:56 |
| RE: A complete DRAFT ELECTORAL ACT(#10), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], February 26, 2005 - 15:48. Viewed 1011 times. |
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la garēā malpadert
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Citizen #22:
Miestrā Schivā |
> I assume the vote will be completely anonymous, but in that case s. 6 should be clarified so that it is mentioned that connecting the voter with the vote is not included in "All details of votes and counts".
Oh, I thought that would have been understood. A fair enough point. Trust me, no-one gets to know how anyone else voted in the Republic.
Miestrā Schivā
"The Republic's Most Articulate Spokeswhatever" - R. B. Madison
A slave begins by demanding justice, and ends by wanting to wear a crown. |
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