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Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform Bill(#640), posted by President Anglatzarâ, [IP Hidden], June 30, 2007 - 04:50. Viewed 415 times.
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Does the Chamber agree that the following changes can be made and be considered as simple proofreading?

PART TWO:1:a random order according to surname -> random order
(what would random order according to surname mean?)

PART TWO:2 skipped out -> omitted (twice)
(a question of style)

Then a general question. If I read the law right, it is quite possible that an election might lead to not all seats being filled. Unlikely, but by no means impossible. What happens then?
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Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform BillPresident AnglatzarâJune 30, 2007 - 04:50
la garçâ malpadertJune 30, 2007 - 06:54

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  • President AnglatzarâJune 30, 2007 - 04:50
    RE: Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform Bill(#641), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], June 30, 2007 - 06:54. Viewed 399 times.
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    Citizen #23:
    Ián Anglatzarâ
    > Does the Chamber agree that the following changes can be made and be considered as simple proofreading?

    I have no objections.

    > PART TWO:1:a random order according to surname -> random order
    > (what would random order according to surname mean?)

    A hangover from an earlier draft where the word was "alphabetical", not "random".

    > Then a general question. If I read the law right, it is quite possible that an election might lead to not all seats being filled. Unlikely, but by no means impossible. What happens then?

    That would mean one or more vacancies, which would be dealt as with in Part III of the bill. To wit, a by-election, and if that fails, vacancies until the end of the Chamber.




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    Ep Inxheneu CrovâJune 30, 2007 - 09:44

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    la garçâ malpadertJune 30, 2007 - 06:54
    RE: Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform Bill(#644), posted by Ep Inxheneu Crovâ, [IP Hidden], June 30, 2007 - 09:44. Viewed 317 times.
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    Citizen #23:
    Ián Anglatzarâ
    > > Does the Chamber agree that the following changes can be made and be considered as simple proofreading?
    >
    > I have no objections.
    >
    > > PART TWO:1:a random order according to surname -> random order
    > > (what would random order according to surname mean?)
    >
    > A hangover from an earlier draft where the word was "alphabetical", not "random".
    >
    > > Then a general question. If I read the law right, it is quite possible that an election might lead to not all seats being filled. Unlikely, but by no means impossible. What happens then?

    Surely as long as there were five candidates, all seats would be filled-in STV normally the highest ranking candidate(s) left without a quota are deemed elected...?
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    President AnglatzarâJune 30, 2007 - 10:25

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    Ep Inxheneu CrovâJune 30, 2007 - 09:44
    RE: Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform Bill(#645), posted by President Anglatzarâ, [IP Hidden], June 30, 2007 - 10:25. Viewed 362 times.
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    Citizen #23:
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    > > > Does the Chamber agree that the following changes can be made and be considered as simple proofreading?
    > >
    > > I have no objections.
    > >
    > > > PART TWO:1:a random order according to surname -> random order
    > > > (what would random order according to surname mean?)
    > >
    > > A hangover from an earlier draft where the word was "alphabetical", not "random".
    > >
    > > > Then a general question. If I read the law right, it is quite possible that an election might lead to not all seats being filled. Unlikely, but by no means impossible. What happens then?
    >
    > Surely as long as there were five candidates, all seats would be filled-in STV normally the highest ranking candidate(s) left without a quota are deemed elected...?

    If there are, say, six candidates, and three of them are not ranked by any voter. You only have to indicate a FIRST preference... I can't see that any of those three would be elected then.
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    la garçâ malpadertJune 30, 2007 - 20:30

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    President AnglatzarâJune 30, 2007 - 10:25
    RE: Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform Bill(#646), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], June 30, 2007 - 20:30. Viewed 327 times.
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    Citizen #23:
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    > > Surely as long as there were five candidates, all seats would be filled-in STV normally the highest ranking candidate(s) left without a quota are deemed elected...?
    >
    > If there are, say, six candidates, and three of them are not ranked by any voter. You only have to indicate a FIRST preference... I can't see that any of those three would be elected then.

    A quick test run using the software indicates you are correct. But any candidate that can't even get a last-place ranking on any of a dozen or more ballots doesn't deserve to be a legislator. In the above case there would be two vacancies and thus a two-seat by-election, at which people slightly less pathetic might want to nominate.


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    President AnglatzarâJune 30, 2007 - 09:20

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    la garçâ malpadertJune 30, 2007 - 06:54
    RE: Regarding 5RC5, the Electoral Reform Bill(#643), posted by President Anglatzarâ, [IP Hidden], June 30, 2007 - 09:20. Viewed 387 times.
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    I will assume that you speak for the whole Chamber.
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