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Túischac’h Txec EreufighleuJanuary 15, 2008 - 14:58
RE: More Explanation Please!(#748), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], January 15, 2008 - 15:23. Viewed 469 times.
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The Royalist regime still does it the old way (example). Basically, all the laws ready for final vote are bundled into regular journals and all voted on at the same time. In the Republic, this would entail that whenever something was ready for final vote, you would hold it until the next regular publication of the journal, then publish the journal with everything ready for final vote in it, call for votes, and then announce results in the next issue.

Of course, we have a one-week voting period rather than a month so any such journal of our own would have to come out weekly. You could also bundle amendments into the journal as well, if that wouldn't be too confusing.



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RE: More Explanation Please!la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:23
Túischac’h Txec EreufighleuJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:47

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la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:23
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I just looked at the example that you linked to....
Interesting. Perhaps this can be a function of portion of the Secretary of State's office?
I could put something like this together for us. I could try to make it regular?

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Túischac’h Txec EreufighleuJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:34

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la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:23
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So, if I am understanding this correctly...

The CoD would have a set day of the week, say Monday, in which the Túischac’h (or whoever) would publish the list of Proposals that are ready for Final Vote or even new Proposals that are ready for amendment phase?

These would all be published into one collective forum post and then the Deputies would vote on them as a package deal? I am fervently against package deal legislation which is one of the failing of the US government, IMHO.

Or vote on them individually? I am not sure how that would be different than what we are doing now, beyond just having the addition of a summary document?

I apologize to those who are familiar with this. =(
I am thinking that I do not completely understand.

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la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:39

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> The CoD would have a set day of the week, say Monday, in which the Túischac’h (or whoever) would publish the list of Proposals that are ready for Final Vote or even new Proposals that are ready for amendment phase?

Uh-huh.

> These would all be published into one collective forum post

...or styly-looking PDF document.

> and then the Deputies would vote on them as a package deal?

No, each individual proposal in the journal would be voted on separately.

> I am not sure how that would be different than what we are doing now, beyond just having the addition of a summary document?

The main difference is that the voting period would be identical for all the bills in any one journal. We wouldn't have the confusing situation we have at the moment where one bill might begin its voting period two days and eighteen hours into the voting period of a separate bill. Plus, we would have a formal record.



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Túischac’h Txec EreufighleuJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:45

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Interesting...

That would aleviate some of the confusion, but would be a bit more work for all involved.
It would also create much more for the Chamber to consider at one time; instead of being able to stagger our thoughts on the legislation as it comes we would have to focus it all at one time.

Hmmmm....

Perhaps this could be as a joint effort from the SoS' office and the Túischac’h?

All this would take would be an amendment to the Standing Orders, right?

Hmmm.. I can get a template put together if you like?. Perhaps by Friday'ish?

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la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 16:16

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> Perhaps this could be as a joint effort from the SoS' office and the Túischac’h?

Perhaps the new SoS and the Tuischac'h should discuss this once the SoS is decided. ;-)

> All this would take would be an amendment to the Standing Orders, right?

Yes.

> Hmmm.. I can get a template put together if you like?. Perhaps by Friday'ish?

Oh, no rush - if you're keen you can do it now, but it's of no urgency, I feel.





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