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Túischac’h Txec EreufighleuJanuary 15, 2008 - 14:13
RE: Amendment ( 8. stricken or reformed )(#1908), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], January 15, 2008 - 14:43. Viewed 175 times.
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> My preference is to pass it as a resolution and not as legistation. I do not think we should have to change a law because we have changed our stance on Public Relations with the Kingdom. Laws are for determining processes and outcomes, and not specifying attitudes or stances. Resolutions are for that.

On the contrary, estimat Tuischac'h, laws are for determining what a government is allowed and not allowed to do. This bill does precisely that - it specifically makes no imposition on the rights of any private citizen. Making it a resolution will make it worthless, since any government will be free to ignore it.

Your amendment, BTW, should make it clear that you are suggesting changing 6RC5 from a bill to enact legislation to a resolution with no legislative force. And it makes absolutely no sense that a resolution of this chamber should have Presidential assent - that's only to enact laws. I also don't see the sense in having a referendum on a non-binding resolution that everyone's free to ignore.

What do others think?



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RE: Amendment ( 8. stricken or reformed )la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 14:43
D. N. VercáriâJanuary 15, 2008 - 15:04

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la garçâ malpadertJanuary 15, 2008 - 14:43
RE: Amendment ( 8. stricken or reformed )(#1910), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], January 15, 2008 - 15:04. Viewed 141 times.
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Citizen #22:
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> > My preference is to pass it as a resolution and not as legistation. I do not think we should have to change a law because we have changed our stance on Public Relations with the Kingdom. Laws are for determining processes and outcomes, and not specifying attitudes or stances. Resolutions are for that.
>
> On the contrary, estimat Tuischac'h, laws are for determining what a government is allowed and not allowed to do. This bill does precisely that - it specifically makes no imposition on the rights of any private citizen. Making it a resolution will make it worthless, since any government will be free to ignore it.
>
> Your amendment, BTW, should make it clear that you are suggesting changing 6RC5 from a bill to enact legislation to a resolution with no legislative force. And it makes absolutely no sense that a resolution of this chamber should have Presidential assent - that's only to enact laws. I also don't see the sense in having a referendum on a non-binding resolution that everyone's free to ignore.
>
> What do others think?

I guess I already said that I would prefer a resolution to a law in this, so of course a referendum would not be required.

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