Gödafrďeu Válcadác’h
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Gödafrďeu Válcadác’h | > The Chamber of Deputies resolves that the following principles should form the basis of all policy by the Government of this Republic towards the Talossan Royalist regime:
I know the above is from an amendment that Miestrâ, as I understand it, has not approved. Or has she? I don't know, but whether this is a resolution or bill is moot, as while this proposal has my support, it does not have my empathy.
And before I begin, an apology to all for waiting until this, the last minute, to look at the proposal in question and to make comments...
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> There is only one single and indivisible Talossan nation, divided at the present time into two > States, the Talossan Republic and the Kingdom of Talossa. All citizens of both States are members of > the Talossan nation, as are certain people who are citizens of neither state but who have contributed > to Talossa in the past. The Talossan nation has existed continuously since 26 December
> 1979.
So far, so good. I agree with all of this.
> However, the Kingdom of Talossa which was founded on that date no longer exists. The two Talossan > States - the Republic of Talossa existing since 1 June 2004, and the Royalist regime styling itself "the > Kingdom of Talossa" existing since 15 August 2005 - are equally legitimate successor states to the old > Kingdom of Talossa.
Wrong. The original Kingdom of Talossa was dissolved in about 1980 with the first of Ben's many revolutions - and restored later on in that year, I think. But I get picky. :-) Seriously, though, the Kingdom of today is in the direct political succession from the Kingdom of 1979. The Woolley regime is the legitimate successor to Ben's Kingdom, at least in a legal sense, if not in spirit. And I think in spirit in many ways. In 2005, Woolley was not that spirit-less presence in our eyes that many of us see him as now. While he was going after Ben Madison, he was gold.
Where he and the rest of the Kingdom went wrong is the continuance of the kind of isolationist attitudes that ticked of the rest of the internet - the very attitudes that keep it from going into its rightful place in the LOSS, etc.
> Given the above, political unification of all Talossans under one single state can never be
> accomplished by one successor State imposing its legitimacy over that of the other State.
Wrong. We should make a return to the Kingdom, being welcomed as nothing less than returning heroes and given the respect we deserve. Michael P. and Chris Gruber should be made Dukes or something like that for their leadership in standing up to Ben Madison. Chris' return and being honoured by John Woolley would be a direct slap in the face of Ben Madison who has maintained that Talossa is dead. Talossa, in one or two, is very much alive.
> The Kingdom will never absorb the Republic, or vice versa. The political unification of the Talossan
> nation will require the simultaneous extinction of both successor states and their rival, equally valid
> but mutually exclusive claims to legitimacy.Given the above, the Talossan Republic declares
> as a non-negotiable precondition that any discussion of political unification of Talossa must take
> place in the framework of discussing a wholly new constitution and legal framework which would
> supersede and extinguish both the current Kingdom and Republic of Talossa; and that in these
> discussions every facet of constitutional and other law shall be open for discussion and negotiation,
> including the form of government, the nature of the Head of State and the name of the unified
> State.The Talossan Republic declares that its preferred format for such a process would
> be:- A negotiating committee made up of equal representatives from both existing
> States. - A new constitution, provisional legal code and provisional Government for the unified State of Talossa to be agreed by a 2/3 majority of this committee.
- The framework of the new unified State to be approved by simultaneous referenda in both States.
Until the preconditions in Article 4 above are met, the Talossan Republic will not entertain any initiatives for political unification, and formally rejects any claim by any institution operating under the Organic Law of the Kingdom of Talossa to any pan-Talossan legitimacy, except where endorsed by an equivalent institution operating under the Constitution of the Republic.Notwithstanding anything above, the Talossan Republic declares its support for friendship, cultural co-operation and free traffic of ideas and other goods between Talossan citizens anywhere, no matter which State they owe their allegiance to. The Talossan Republic reaffirms our respect for citizens of the Kingdom as co-equal and legitimate members of the Talossan nation, and pledges to defend the claims of our own citizens for reciprocal respect. The Talossan Republic officially supports all non-governmental efforts to develop a process of "spontaneous grassroots cultural unification", by means of the fullest cultural contacts between the two > States.
The idea of a new constitution I agree with wholeheartedly. Talossan constitutional tradition demands that in times of tumultuous change, a new document should be made simply because the present document is in no way equipped to deal with the new realities of whatever is going in Talossa. The 1985 Organic Law (I think that's the doc) came about upon the democratization of the country. The 1988 Constitution came about, I believe, as a result of increased immigration and a desire to more fully codify the vague principles upon which Talossa is based. The 1997 Organic Law was in direct reaction to the wave of immigration of the first cybercits as well as the fact that Talossa was online.
The Constitution of 2008 (or 2009 or somesuch year) would be the signature of the return of those Talossans Ben drove off and a real sign of the final healing from the hellaciousness of Halloween.
This bill writes off the long legal continuity of the Kingdom of Talossa, and while a valid attempt at wiping the slate clean in many ways, it harms the legitimacy of the Talossan nation in the legal sense if not the spiritual sense, and in the future to come, we will need both.
GV
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