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D. N. VercáriâFebruary 02, 2008 - 12:56
RE: I wish to make one tiny final amendment.(#1974), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], February 02, 2008 - 14:46. Viewed 179 times.
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Miestrâ Schivâ

> > The Deputy should not have two opportunities to amend this Bill-this is the purpose of the amendment phase.
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> It's true, no tiny final amendmends during the phase that is called "Final Vote", say the Standing Orders.

We've made tiny final "tweaks" to wording before. But in the interests of consensus, I withdraw my suggestion.

> > However, since it is technically an ordinary Bill, nothing prevents a future Chamber from simply repealing or amending it without reference to the people. Is this not an inconsistency?
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> It is indeed an interesting theoretical question whether laws that have been "entrenched" by a referendum could be abolished without a referendum; AFAIK again, our laws don't say anything about this.

I think it is a basic tenet of a functioning legal democracy that if the law doesn't say it's forbidden, it's allowed. Yes, it is a feature of this law that it can be amended or even repealed by Parlamînt without another referendum. When I suggested "entrenching" it (making it unamendable without another referendum) people shouted me down. So this is the halfway house. I'm surprised you don't remember that.



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RE: I wish to make one tiny final amendment.la garçâ malpadertFebruary 02, 2008 - 14:46
Ep Inxheneu CrovâFebruary 03, 2008 - 10:36
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