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D. N. VercáriâFebruary 02, 2008 - 12:56
RE: I wish to make one tiny final amendment.(#1974), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], February 02, 2008 - 14:46. Viewed 263 times.
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> > The Deputy should not have two opportunities to amend this Bill-this is the purpose of the amendment phase.
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> It's true, no tiny final amendmends during the phase that is called "Final Vote", say the Standing Orders.

We've made tiny final "tweaks" to wording before. But in the interests of consensus, I withdraw my suggestion.

> > However, since it is technically an ordinary Bill, nothing prevents a future Chamber from simply repealing or amending it without reference to the people. Is this not an inconsistency?
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> It is indeed an interesting theoretical question whether laws that have been "entrenched" by a referendum could be abolished without a referendum; AFAIK again, our laws don't say anything about this.

I think it is a basic tenet of a functioning legal democracy that if the law doesn't say it's forbidden, it's allowed. Yes, it is a feature of this law that it can be amended or even repealed by Parlamīnt without another referendum. When I suggested "entrenching" it (making it unamendable without another referendum) people shouted me down. So this is the halfway house. I'm surprised you don't remember that.



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RE: I wish to make one tiny final amendment.la garēā malpadertFebruary 02, 2008 - 14:46
Ep Inxheneu CrovâFebruary 03, 2008 - 10:36

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la garçâ malpadertFebruary 02, 2008 - 14:46
RE: I wish to make one tiny final amendment.(#1983), posted by Ep Inxheneu Crovâ, [IP Hidden], February 03, 2008 - 10:36. Viewed 253 times.
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> I think it is a basic tenet of a functioning legal democracy that if the law doesn't say it's forbidden, it's allowed. Yes, it is a feature of this law that it can be amended or even repealed by Parlamīnt without another referendum. When I suggested "entrenching" it (making it unamendable without another referendum) people shouted me down. So this is the halfway house. I'm surprised you don't remember that.
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We already entrench certain laws-thats why we have a written constitution. This requires a higher standard of approval by Parliament, so perhaps this is why it was not done in this way. All other laws should on principle be reversible by an elected Parliament. Those who objected were perfectly right to do so, IMHO.
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