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FOR DISCUSSION: Ministers of Government Bill(#1987), posted by Ep Inxheneu Crovâ, [IP Hidden], February 06, 2008 - 09:04. Viewed 265 times.
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Dermot
I know there isn't time, but why the heck not. All misspellings are my own.

Ministers of Government Bill

1. The number of Ministers, including those who serve outside of the Cabinet, shall not exceed five, including the Seneschal.

2. The title of each Minister and their responsibilties are listed below:

Agrimensoûr Xhenerál
Surveyor-General (Archives and statistics, technology, census)

Gárda dal Sigñhaziun
Keeper of the Seal (Justice and Immigration, internal communications)

Econôm
Treasurer (Finance)

Cantzeléir
Chancellor (Foreign Affairs, external communications)

Prüm Lasdintsch
First Ladintsch (Culture and Education)

3. The Seneschal shall nominate one Minister as Distain, to act as his/her deputy and to substitute for him/her in the event of absence or incapacity.

4. At least one Minister must be a member of a House of Parlimînt.

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FOR DISCUSSION: Ministers of Government BillEp Inxheneu CrovâFebruary 06, 2008 - 09:04
Gödafrïeu Válcadác’hFebruary 09, 2008 - 19:28

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  • Ep Inxheneu CrovâFebruary 06, 2008 - 09:04
    Absolutely not.(#2001), posted by Gödafrïeu Válcadác’h, [IP Hidden], February 09, 2008 - 19:28. Viewed 271 times.
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    Citizen #34:
    Dermot
    The needs of the government will be changing constantly with population size, the number of people who would be willing to be a part of the Talossan civil service, etc., etc. To try to codify these things into law (as I tried to do in the Kingdom with a bunch of PDs Ben should have vetoed at once) is very well-intentioned, but ultimately a burden on our legal system to have to change the law with every new ministerial idea the PM comes up with.

    It's great to have job descriptions, but let's let them be as flexible as they can be so that they can change on a dime. :-)

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    Túischac’h Txec EreufighleuFebruary 06, 2008 - 10:40

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  • Ep Inxheneu CrovâFebruary 06, 2008 - 09:04
    A few thoughts....(#1989), posted by Túischac’h Txec Ereufighleu, [IP Hidden], February 06, 2008 - 10:40. Viewed 278 times.
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    Citizen #34:
    Dermot
    First, limiting the Ministers (inside and outside of the cabinet) to 5 really means that less people are going to have to pick up most of the work. We currently have 7 ministers that cover:

    Immigration, Finance, Foreign Affairs, Attourny General, Information, Culture, Senescal
    We also have an Ambassador or two out their.

    We will not want to set a limit, but perhaps reorganize and set guidlines and precendent for future operations.

    If you are looking to limit the number of high level ministers and have others that work for them doing things that are associated with their 'portfolio' in order to share the work and to provide a level of accountability - I am down with that. Kind of like the Culture Ministry has a few associates, and the Secretary of State has a Secretarial Assistant.

    Surveyor-General (Archives and statistics, technology, census)
    Most of this falls under the purview of the Secretary of State this, with the exception of Technology
    There could be a Statistical Assistant to the Secretary.
    Currently the Immigration Minister handles the Census, but I could see the SoS picking that up,
    with possibly someone else to take care of it.

    Keeper of the Seal (Justice and Immigration, internal communications)
    I am not sure how Justice is related to Immigration? What do you mean by internal communication.
    This sounds like something that a Technology Minister could handle, depending on what you mean.
    Immigration should stay a separate position.

    Treasurer (Finance)
    Sounds good. This minister needs to be a minister inside the cabinet.

    Chancellor (Foreign Affairs, external communications)
    If I am correct, isn't this the primary job for the Seneschal - dealing with foriegn affairs?
    The Senescal has several Ambassadors appointed for various reasons.

    First Ladintsch (Culture and Education)
    This sounds good - similar to what we have now.

    Minister as Distain
    I need to review this...

    Minister must be a member of a House of Parlimînt.
    What is the reasoning for this? I an not sure what you are trying to accomplish with this.

    Túischac’h Txec Ereufighleu
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