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| RE: Question to the ImmiMin | President Anglatzarâ | February 05, 2008 - 04:25 | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 05, 2008 - 05:06 |
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Parent message | | President Anglatzarâ | February 05, 2008 - 04:25 |
| RE: Question to the ImmiMin(#157), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], February 05, 2008 - 05:06. Viewed 242 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > Looking at the statistics, how close are we to Senate elections following Const II, 2.4 and Const II, 2.10 after the recent provincial murder merger?
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> Far off, I hope. Activating the Senäts now would kill us dead.
It would. But we couldn't do it anyway, since the provisions of the Constitution are still talking about 5 provinces in which the requirements for the activation of the Senate would have to be fulfilled, while now we only have 3.
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| | la garçâ malpadert | February 05, 2008 - 05:30 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 05, 2008 - 05:06 |
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la garçâ malpadert
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > > Looking at the statistics, how close are we to Senate elections following Const II, 2.4 and Const II, 2.10 after the recent provincial murder merger?
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> > Far off, I hope. Activating the Senäts now would kill us dead.
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> It would. But we couldn't do it anyway, since the provisions of the Constitution are still talking about 5 provinces in which the requirements for the activation of the Senate would have to be fulfilled, while now we only have 3.
Yes, so you don't need to worry about that. :-)
If what you're wondering is the Provincial populations:
Cézembre: 7
Florenciâ: 4
Great Southern Province: 8
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 05, 2008 - 07:52 |
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Parent message | | la garçâ malpadert | February 05, 2008 - 05:30 |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
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(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > > > Looking at the statistics, how close are we to Senate elections following Const II, 2.4 and Const II, 2.10 after the recent provincial murder merger?
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> > > Far off, I hope. Activating the Senäts now would kill us dead.
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> > It would. But we couldn't do it anyway, since the provisions of the Constitution are still talking about 5 provinces in which the requirements for the activation of the Senate would have to be fulfilled, while now we only have 3.
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> Yes, so you don't need to worry about that. :-)
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> If what you're wondering is the Provincial populations:
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> Cézembre: 7
> Florenciâ: 4
> Great Southern Province: 8
That's the figure that I wanted to see. So if the Constutition had been amended accordingly, we were now 3 Florencians away from our first Senäts elections.
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| | President Anglatzarâ | February 05, 2008 - 17:01 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 05, 2008 - 07:52 |
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President Anglatzarâ
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Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > If what you're wondering is the Provincial populations:
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> > Cézembre: 7
> > Florenciâ: 4
> > Great Southern Province: 8
Which tells us that we'd also need to up the figures to 9 citizens per province, or so... at least! Perhaps 11? 7x5 was the old minimum, and that was a wise one. 11x3 but two fewer senators... makes sense. Yes, 11 per province sounds about right.
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 05, 2008 - 17:22 |
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Parent message | | President Anglatzarâ | February 05, 2008 - 17:01 |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
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(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > > If what you're wondering is the Provincial populations:
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> > > Cézembre: 7
> > > Florenciâ: 4
> > > Great Southern Province: 8
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> Which tells us that we'd also need to up the figures to 9 citizens per province, or so... at least! Perhaps 11? 7x5 was the old minimum, and that was a wise one. 11x3 but two fewer senators... makes sense. Yes, 11 per province sounds about right.
The discussion of Constitution reforms is herewith opened.
We need fallback clauses for the circumstance of a lack of candidates in Parliament elections, as well as a realistic description of the circumstances which would allow us to give our Upper House a go.
In case of the first, I would recommend that the Parliament is suspended for one term, passing the legislative power to a General Assembly of all citizens.
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A long history is fine, a long future is better.
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 06, 2008 - 06:49 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | February 05, 2008 - 17:22 |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
(4498 posts total)
(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #23:
Ián Anglatzarâ | > > > > If what you're wondering is the Provincial populations:
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> > > > Cézembre: 7
> > > > Florenciâ: 4
> > > > Great Southern Province: 8
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> > Which tells us that we'd also need to up the figures to 9 citizens per province, or so... at least! Perhaps 11? 7x5 was the old minimum, and that was a wise one. 11x3 but two fewer senators... makes sense. Yes, 11 per province sounds about right.
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> The discussion of Constitution reforms is herewith opened.
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> We need fallback clauses for the circumstance of a lack of candidates in Parliament elections, as well as a realistic description of the circumstances which would allow us to give our Upper House a go.
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> In case of the first, I would recommend that the Parliament is suspended for one term, passing the legislative power to a General Assembly of all citizens.
As a minimum requirement for Senäts Elections I would recommend that we stick to 7 citizens per Province, but add a requirement that looks at the population statistics of the entire Republic, e.g., equal or greater than 30 (or even more). There should also be a suspension clause for times of a decreasing population, but I can't think of one now.
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A long history is fine, a long future is better.
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