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| Paging the diplomatic squad! | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 23, 2007 - 03:25 | | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 24, 2007 - 16:02 |
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Parent message | | Paging the diplomatic squad! | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 23, 2007 - 03:25 |
| State of the discussion during the outage of Wittenberg(#81), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], November 24, 2007 - 16:02. Viewed 312 times. |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | Miestrâ Schivâ:
"Witt-12 doesn't have 'n Taivoûr del Cußéglh yet, so I'll post this here.
Back on Witt-11, the Seneschál has called for an intervention into the new version of LOSS which is kicking around. I heartily and totally approve of this, for two main reasons:
1) LOSS was founded by Talossa in 1980, and it is a good statement of our claims to be the true heirs of the Bedroom Kingdom.
2) A small nation like ours is a fish. We need water to swim in - that is, we need some way of opening discussions and relations with people who're not our citizens. If the Colorado "Kingdom of Talossa" is not interested in talking to us on any terms apart from that of defeated rebels, then the only logical step is to make a real and significant approach to the broader micronational community. As the bitter experience of Penguinea and Polyphony teaches us, isolation means death for a community such as ours."
Eiric Börnatfiglheu:
"I don't know if its proper for me to chime in here, but I'm going to do it anyway.
I heartily support the Talossan Republic's involvement in the new LOSS, and would like to help out with making contacts and whatnot. I used to serve in the Old LOSS, is there a website for this new incarnation?"
D. N. Vercáriâ:
" [...] If you want to try to contact the LOSS and need a title to impress the masses ;-) , I could appoint you an Assistant Foreign Minister, or the President could appoint you an Ambassador to the LOSS, if the contacts to the organisation are worth a longer committment".
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- Dieter
A long history is fine, a long future is better.
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| | E.S. Börnatfiglheu | November 24, 2007 - 17:35 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 24, 2007 - 16:02 |
| RE: State of the discussion during the outage of Wittenberg(#82), posted by E.S. Börnatfiglheu, [IP Hidden], November 24, 2007 - 17:35. Viewed 327 times. |
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E.S. Börnatfiglheu
Group: citizens
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > D. N. Vercáriâ:
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> " [...] If you want to try to contact the LOSS and need a title to impress the masses ;-) , I could
> appoint you an Assistant Foreign Minister, or the President could appoint you an Ambassador to the
> LOSS, if the contacts to the organisation are worth a longer committment".
I think that involvement with the LOSS is worth the Republic's time, for a few reasons. Firstly, for the reason that Miestra stated... we need water in which to swim. Secondly, also from Miestra, is that LOSS is a historically Talossan institution. If I recall properly, one of our citizens (Justice Verbotten) was a signatory to the first charter.
But also, it will provide contacts with the rest of the micronational community. Start getting our name (and link) out there for more to see. It will help to show us as amiable, capable, and enthusiastic about our project.
I can act a the contact person if the government so wishes. I've still got some older personal contacts among the member nations, particularly in Reunion and Zarahemla.
I'll give you an idea of my LOSS experience, just to provide some background. I served as Amador's ambassador for roughly a year before I handed it over to the Foreign Minister. Amador joined during the time where Matt Dabrowski was serving as the Kingdom's delegate. One of our first major involvements was leading the opposition to Dabrowski's "Micronational Apartheid" bill that would have segregated the LOSS into special councils (the "bug" council, the "microstate council", etc) to better serve their constituent states. It was shortly after this that the Kingdom of Talossa declared that LOSS was "bug-ridden" and left the LOSS, cutting off all diplomatic relations with other nations, including the fledgling relationship between Talossa and Amador.
After this, during Leys' second term as SG, I believe, I handed things over to my Foreign Minister, in order to try and revitalize things on the home front.
I hope this helps,
Eiric Börnatfiglheu |
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 25, 2007 - 04:58 |
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Parent message | | E.S. Börnatfiglheu | November 24, 2007 - 17:35 |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
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Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | So you are the LOSS expert we need and I make you an Assistant Minister. Essentially, this makes you a member of the Cabinet, so you can join all discussions on this forum. The more, the merrier, welcome aboard, etc. :-)
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A long history is fine, a long future is better.
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| | E.S. Börnatfiglheu | November 25, 2007 - 16:35 |
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Parent message | | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 25, 2007 - 04:58 |
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E.S. Börnatfiglheu
Group: citizens
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(last post: March 13, 2008 - 11:06)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > So you are the LOSS expert we need and I make you an Assistant Minister. Essentially, this makes you
> a member of the Cabinet, so you can join all discussions on this forum. The more, the merrier,
> welcome aboard, etc. :-)
For that, I thank you. But I would like the opinion of the cabinet and Republic as a whole. While I think that pursuit of LOSS membership and involvement is a good thing, this is only an unofficial opinion that belongs to me and seems to be echoed through other unofficial channels.
Should I go ahead and start knocking on this particular door, or should the government perhaps propose a resolution to the CoD?
Cheers,
Eiric Börnatfiglheu |
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| | D. N. Vercáriâ | November 25, 2007 - 17:00 |
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Parent message | | E.S. Börnatfiglheu | November 25, 2007 - 16:35 |
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D. N. Vercáriâ
Group: citizens
(4498 posts total)
(last post: March 15, 2008 - 16:51)
Citizen #26:
Dieter N Vercáriâ | > > So you are the LOSS expert we need and I make you an Assistant Minister. Essentially, this makes you
> > a member of the Cabinet, so you can join all discussions on this forum. The more, the merrier,
> > welcome aboard, etc. :-)
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> For that, I thank you. But I would like the opinion of the cabinet and Republic as a whole. While I think that pursuit of LOSS membership and involvement is a good thing, this is only an unofficial opinion that belongs to me and seems to be echoed through other unofficial channels.
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> Should I go ahead and start knocking on this particular door, or should the government perhaps propose a resolution to the CoD?
The first step is to visit the LOSS and to find out if it's worth an attempt to get involved there. All of the government's next steps will depend on your expertise.
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- Dieter
A long history is fine, a long future is better.
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