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  • Preliminary Status Report on PROJECT: KERUX
  • E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 26, 2007 - 00:59
    RE: Preliminary Status Report on PROJECT: KERUX(#87), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], November 26, 2007 - 03:55. Viewed 321 times.
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    > Esteemed Ministers of the Republic,
    >
    > As per the request of the Prime Minister, I have made initial contact with the Secretary General of the LOSS and inquired about Republican membership. Pursuant to this, I compile the following report regarding the LOSS, complete with my own recommendations.
    >
    > PROJECT: KERUX

    Kerux? Explain.

    > I.) OFFICIAL PROCEDURE FOR ADMITTANCE
    > The procedure for admittance to the LOSS is quite simple. All we must do is write the Secretary General with a formal request containing the following information: A.) The Full, Formal Name of our Nation, B.) Our Website's URL, C.) The Name and Email of our Potential Delegate. The Assembly would then have 2 weeks to debate and vote on our membership.
    >
    > This differs from the older procedure where prospectives were required to be sponsored by another member state. Amador, come to think of it, was sponsored by Choconia.

    Hey! You knew the Choconians? Then you probably also knew some former Penguineans who came from Choconia, Lisa and Rick...

    There were also certain age/activity requirements that had to be passed, last I knew, but the Secretary General made no mention of these. Of course,he might have found it to be unneccesary, given that Talossa was signatory to the foundational treaty.
    >
    > II.) A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE SECRETARY GENERAL
    > Mr. James E. Bentz, the LOSS Secretary General, did inform me that there were some LOSS members who had an unfavourable opinion of Talossa, most particularly the Kingdom, and that this might be a detriment to our admission. He recommended that we also include a dispatch that worked to outline the political changes between the Republic and Regipats, and how we are different.
    >
    > Unfortunately, our predecessor in the LOSS, Mr. Dabrowski of the Regipats (Prior to the Semi-Permeable Wall Act), and the deprecatory and isolationst attitudes of the Kingdom, particularly "micronational apartheid," left a bad taste in some mouths. Also, our own lack of strong, formal, foreign engagement to this point has not helped. Anyhow, though this, in some ways, amounts to an additional (if unofficial an informal) requirement, I think it would be worth our while to do it.
    >
    > III.) RECENT LOSS ACTIVITY
    > Under SG Bentz's tenure, the LOSS has experienced something of a resurgence. It is in the process of rewriting its charter, having just voted on the various changes to be made, and are putting them all in place for consideration as a whole document.
    >
    > They are also working on a new website. They voted to do so, but are trying to find someone skilled enough to design a "tasteful and functional" site. Perhaps we could offer to help as a gesture of good faith?
    >
    > Also, they have worked towards the reduction in the number of YAMOs and conducted a merger with the SPUM and LOM, under the LOSS banner. Such action not only cuts down on work for nations with permanent missions to each, but also increases the number of total nations we would be in contact with.
    >
    > IV.) MY OWN RECOMMENDATIONS
    > I still think that this project is worthwhile, it is a part of our heritage and would help get us talking with the rest of the micronational world. We have much to offer them, and they much to offer us.
    >
    > And further, this would help (I feel) to resurrect an older, more open Talossa. A nation where young men once signed a great treaty devoted to a world of 100,000,000,000 nations. We aren't the Regipats, holed up behind our borders and refusing to play. Talossa is fun, and usd to lead the micronational world in the export thereof. The fact that Talossa met in person from time to time, and did such crazy things, completely boggled my 14-year-old Amadoran mind. We used to the "the big leagues" and now we're seen as bitter and somewhat vulgar. Lets work on turning back the clock in at least one respect.
    >
    > However, I do not think that League membership should run the be-all end-all, and instead would should consider the drafting of a formal diplomatic policy and work towards direct relations with our micronational brethren. I believe it should be rooted in the Penguinean "If you exist, you exist" concept at the core, but can move forward from this point. Many initially get involved in micronationalism because of diplomacy and wind up staying because of internal activity.
    >
    > V.) ADDENDUM
    > I have further requested from the Secretary General, given the lack of a current information clearinghouse on the League, to not only keep me informed as to charter developments, but also for a list of memberstates. I will file additional addenda to the cabinet upon reciept and analysis.
    >
    > ---------------END REPORT---------------
    >
    > Sincerely:
    > Eiric Börnatfiglheu

    Well, that was fast. :-) Thanks for posting this detailed assessment. Now we've got to discuss the matter, which may take a longer while, looking at the average speed of our government.

    I for one would propose that we observe the LOSS for a while, seeing who's in and what kind of activities are going on there. It may be somewhat crucial to explain how and why the Republic overcame the power structures of the Kingdom of yore, and that presently we are following a diplomatic policy that resembles the old Penguinean "if you exist you exist"-policy, but goes further insomuch as we actually do (did, unfortunately) appoint Ambassadors to fellow nationettes (Septempontia has been the only one yet).

    As for joining the LOSS, if they aren't propagating completely inacceptable ideas (of racist, sexist, fascist or other disgusting nature), it will at least do us no harm if we seek membership in this organisation. It would in fact be a way to perpetually advertise our existance.

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    RE: Preliminary Status Report on PROJECT: KERUXD. N. VercáriâNovember 26, 2007 - 03:55
    la garçâ malpadertNovember 26, 2007 - 21:11

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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 26, 2007 - 03:55
    My vote is for ACTION!(#94), posted by la garçâ malpadert, [IP Hidden], November 26, 2007 - 21:11. Viewed 310 times.
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    > Well, that was fast. :-) Thanks for posting this detailed assessment. Now we've got to discuss the matter, which may take a longer while, looking at the average speed of our government.

    What's to discuss? I think that we should let the Associate Foreign Minister take the initiative on this. If every single thing has to be discussed to death by the various ministers - which assumes waiting until they're awake - then there's no point having separate portfolios or areas of responsibility.

    My vote is: Cxhn. Börnatfiglheu to be given carte blanche to initiate whatever he wants to do with regards to LOSS, with the proviso that he report all his actions to the Government on this forum and follow any instructions that we can be bothered giving. So what if he messes something up? Doing something stupid will at least mean something we can learn from. Doing nothing is the cancer which is killing the Republic.

    > I for one would propose that we observe the LOSS for a while, seeing who's in and what kind of activities are going on there.

    Who's "we"? Is it just Eric, or Jim as the "official" Foreign Minister or the whole government? What does "observe" mean? Just reading frequent reports from Eric, or going over to see for ourselves? Let's be more precise or nothing will happen, and I've already said what nation doing nothing is the cancer that is killing.



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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 27, 2007 - 03:55

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    la garçâ malpadertNovember 26, 2007 - 21:11
    RE: Okay then!(#95), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], November 27, 2007 - 03:55. Viewed 291 times.
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    As as least one of the colleagues twitched: Action! Allez-hop, foreign ministers. ;-)

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    President AnglatzarâNovember 27, 2007 - 04:15

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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 27, 2007 - 03:55
    RE: Okay then!(#97), posted by President Anglatzarâ, [IP Hidden], November 27, 2007 - 04:15. Viewed 298 times.
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    You have the blessing of your president. While my personal interest in other micronations leaves something to be desired, I think there is much to gain from being friendly and respectful to other people who are doing basically the same thing as Talossa.
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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 27, 2007 - 04:26

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    President AnglatzarâNovember 27, 2007 - 04:15
    RE: Okay then!(#98), posted by D. N. Vercáriâ, [IP Hidden], November 27, 2007 - 04:26. Viewed 316 times.
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    > You have the blessing of your president. While my personal interest in other micronations leaves something to be desired, I think there is much to gain from being friendly and respectful to other people who are doing basically the same thing as Talossa.

    At a brief glance I saw that a friend of the Republic is hanging out there, his Talossan name is Niclau Txec Pîntdaviúlt (if I remember this correctly). So our diplomats will probably get at least some support when going through the application procedure.

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    E.S. BörnatfiglheuNovember 26, 2007 - 04:22

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    D. N. VercáriâNovember 26, 2007 - 03:55
    RE: Preliminary Status Report on PROJECT: KERUX(#88), posted by E.S. Börnatfiglheu, [IP Hidden], November 26, 2007 - 04:22. Viewed 341 times.
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    > > PROJECT: KERUX
    >
    > Kerux? Explain.

    I thought that the project needed a name, and those were the first two syllables that popped into my head.

    > Hey! You knew the Choconians? Then you probably also knew some former Penguineans who came from
    > Choconia, Lisa and Rick...

    Lisa I did know, though she was "Queen Lisa" at the time. Not so much Rick though.

    Cheers,
    Eiric Börnatfiglheu
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