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| Where do we go from here? | la garçâ malpadert | September 19, 2007 - 22:43 | | Ián Txaglh | September 20, 2007 - 09:48 |
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Ián Txaglh Group: citizens (462 posts total) (last post: March 24, 2008 - 14:06) Citizen #22: Miestrâ Schivâ | > 1) Do you think we should adopt the Kingdom's suggested spelling and vocabulary reforms?
critically review them and accept those we find acceptable. to write the language in a same way (cos it is only othography reform, not pronunciation, AFAIK) would be fine, but is not the necessity. dialectisation is tempting to this lang-freak, but i agree, it is unnecessary.
> 2) What should be the first priority of the Talossan-speaking community in the Republic?
use it!! :) first, in any kind of official things, bilingual documents would be fine. then, those enuff courageous may start to write belletry, poems etc. i am happy to write a title of web-page or short comics and i get sweat of it. then usefull and comprehensive grammar book.
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| | President Anglatzarâ | September 20, 2007 - 04:29 |
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President Anglatzarâ Group: admins (3194 posts total) (last post: March 14, 2008 - 07:21) Citizen #22: Miestrâ Schivâ | > 1) Do you think we should adopt the Kingdom's suggested spelling and vocabulary reforms?
Yes, for the reason that they are well thought out and good. Let's be grateful for that and adopt them instead of refusing on principle.
> 2) What should be the first priority of the Talossan-speaking community in the Republic?
As someone said further down, start with introducing small steps, small phrases. For most of us Talossan will never be more than a token language, like Irish in that other republic, so make sure all citizens know as a bit of Talossan just as all Irish know at least a few words and phrases of Irish.
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| | Txec Danihél dal Már. | September 19, 2007 - 23:26 |
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Txec Danihél dal Már. Group: citizens (555 posts total) (last post: March 12, 2008 - 20:54) Citizen #22: Miestrâ Schivâ | > Estimats Ladîntschen:
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> 1) Do you think we should adopt the Kingdom's suggested spelling and vocabulary reforms?
Yes. 1) While the reforms may not be the grand simplification that I was hoping for their spelling reforms are a start in the right direction. 2) We need all Ladîntschen to be speaking the same language. 3) It is nice to talk to our Regipats cousins about something other than politics. Politics is so boring.
> 2) What should be the first priority of the Talossan-speaking community in the Republic?
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Hate to go for the obvious here but, use it. It is nice to see Talossan creeping up in our discourse. We are using it not just talking about it. I seem to remember there being translations of Christmas carols and Bible verses at one time in Talossan history. Maybe we could do something like that.
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| | Ep Inxheneu Crovâ | September 20, 2007 - 01:07 |
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Ep Inxheneu Crovâ Group: admins (1303 posts total) (last post: March 13, 2008 - 03:56) Citizen #22: Miestrâ Schivâ | > > 2) What should be the first priority of the Talossan-speaking community in the Republic?
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> Hate to go for the obvious here but, use it.
I'd really appreciate a critique of my list of administrative phrases that I posted a while back-it is probably riddled with errors. If we can get it right then I'm all for legally incorporating them into the Standing orders and other regulations, and publishing them as a .pdf to faciliate their use.
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| | xhorxh asmour | September 20, 2007 - 17:47 |
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xhorxh asmour Group: friends (39 posts total) (last post: January 22, 2008 - 16:21) Citizen #22: Miestrâ Schivâ | # 4 is the GV&SP, a delicate issue. There is no "definitive" text so far because it hasn't yet been approved by the CÚG (still waiting for the King's final thoughts).
# 6 is as follows:
6.1. The four prefixes vice-, zemi-, për-, and ex-, which currently require the use of a hyphen, no longer shall do so. As with all other prefixes, these will simply be added to the root word, without hyphenation.
6.2 A prefix itself is only capitalised if the entire noun including prefix is actually being used as a proper noun or title. However, if the root word itself is a proper noun, the root word retains its capitalisation regardless of whether the prefixed version is being used in a title. For example, Vicepresedînt Cheney (since the word Presedînt in this sense would be a capitalised title), transAdlánt (since Adlánt refers to the proper noun that is the ocean, and is always capitalised), and Banqeu TransAdlánt (for the corporation by that name).
6.3. Proposal 3.1 established the general rule that an apostrophe is used to keep separate the sounds of any two consonants or vowels which might otherwise be interpreted as a digraph (consonantal digraph or diphthong). For example, Vice'împeratôr, ex'hovarda, and tofu'erïa. In cases of prefixed words, and all other compound words, we propose that if the upper/lower-casing of the letters being separated differ, an apostrophe is not introduced to separate digraphs. For example, antiAmericán and TalossaOvest.
Xhorxh Asmoûr
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| | la garçâ malpadert | September 20, 2007 - 02:25 |
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la garçâ malpadert Group: admins (4379 posts total) (last post: March 13, 2008 - 16:29) Citizen #22: Miestrâ Schivâ |
> I'd really appreciate a critique of my list of administrative phrases that I posted a while back-it is probably riddled with errors.
el Prüm Citaxhiên: The President of the Republic
el Seneschál: The Prime Minister
el Secretár d’estat: The Secretary of State (m)
el Distáin: Deputy Prime Minister (m)
All these are "bisexual nouns" (heh!) and can be "la" as well as "el", depending on the gender of the official in question. (Big Thick Grammar 1.6.) Note also corrections of the accents in "Citaxhiên" and "Seneschál".
ün Ministreu: a Minister (m)
üna Ministrà: a Ministry (f)
üna Xhußiun Esecutorxheu: an Executive Order
In modern Talossan, the indefinite article is almost always written 'n, for masculine and feminine. (Big Thick Grammar 3.2) If you're being hyperformal, note that the feminine version is ünâ (note circumflex). In fact, pretty much every feminine noun or adjective ending in "-a" takes a circumflex. The major exception is, interestingly, Talossa.
Pr'iensâ Ziscußiun: For Discussion (f)
Hmm? That would literally mean "For a discussion", and I'm not sure whether the form is correct. I think Për Ziscuziun will do nicely.
Abstenteu: Abstain
That's Austanéu.
Apart from that: ben fäts!.
Miestrâ Schivâ
Founder-President, ZRT - Party of National Unity
Editor, Qator Itrìns
Chief High Language Geek of the Talossan Republic
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