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| Dreu Gavártgic'h | February 14, 2008 - 17:29 | |||
| RE: At Miestrâ's request...(#330), posted by Üc Tärfâ, [IP Hidden], March 08, 2008 - 08:54. Viewed 230 times. |
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| Üc Tärfâ Group: citizens (1365 posts total) (last post: March 10, 2008 - 08:29) Citizen #28: Ugo Truffelli | > To me, the subjunctive is one of the essential items that Romance languages posses and, without it, you really can't call that language a Romance language.\ > > The only three uses that the "conditional tense" is marked down for in the Scurznia: > > If clauses > The translation of "would" > In a few "stock phrases" > > When the subjunctive has many, many, many more uses then this. It can be used for believing, desiring, in impersonal expressions, wishes, with subjunctive triggers, etc. We are only tapping into a very small portion of what the subjunctive has to offer to us. Even if not a classical latin mode, the conditional is a common feature of romance languages. Reforms with the objective to introduce the subjective (that I wholly support), should not forget the conditional as well. I agree on every proposals of you, except one. And one remark. > A4b. Verbs of No Doubt (non duvitarh) should not take the subjunctive, but rather, the indicative, as they expressing "no doubt" and the subjunctive is all about doubt. > > Ex. 5 > Non duvitéu qe o moartarha. > I don't doubt that he will die. I don't agree on this one. "Non duvitarh" is the same verb "duvitarh", not a different verb, and it's seem to me quite non-rational that the same verb should require a different mood when preceeded by "non". I agree that a (unique) "no-doubt" verb has to require the indicative, but a "doubt" verb always requires the subjunctive, because it doesn't matter if it's used in affirmative or neagative form, it still remains a "doubt" verb. > A6. The use of the subjunctive (without the "qe") in the "if" clauses, as a conditional, and in those stock phrases shall continue. This could be a feature of Talossan. And in that I agree. However it's strange that we do not make difference among hypothetical sentences. _____________________________ Distáin dîn el Pirmalaiset Börnatfiglheu Governmáintsch Cumiziunéir për la Tåltamáintsch Talossáes Frappr! Map - Register! | Visitetz Cézembre!!.  ***My mother language is not English ;-)*** e-mail: elistir AT yahoo.com |
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